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<blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 1045617" data-attributes="member: 957"><p>Like I said, I am only speculating.</p><p></p><p>Clearly the PH chart is not open.  The question, as you have described, is: "Is the PH chart something that could be protected as IP or is it to basic?".    You seem highly confident that it could not be protected.  </p><p></p><p>OK.  I don't know what background you have to be so certain.  I know I don't have any background to make me certain.  I do tend to think that if it could not be protected at all, there would be minimal value in excluding it under the D20STL (or even not just putting it in the SRD).  So these things make me tend to think that WotC feel they can protect it.  </p><p></p><p>But I agree that your point makes sense.   I certainly do not think they can protect a simple mathematical progression.  That, of course, would be silly.  But perhaps the relationship between a given progression and a game mechanic is a different matter?  I really do not know.</p><p></p><p>But, like I said before, to me it is not that AU certainly could not use the PH progression.  But that the alternate progression used is really no big deal.  </p><p></p><p>So there is a slim chance that WotC could claim that he could not do this.  Even if they were wrong, that hassle is not worth the bother.</p><p></p><p>More likely than that, because Monte knows (and in many cases is friends with) many people at WotC, he understands that they would not appreciate him reproducing the PH chart, regardless of legal authority.  So possibly Monte choose to do so purely because he felt it was the right thing to do.  That would certainly be within Monte's character as I have observed him.</p><p></p><p>So I do not know.  But without any presumption on the ultimate legal status of the PH progression, I am comfortable presuming that the AU system progression is different do to at least an informal acknowledment of WotC's control over the standard version.  And Monte made the choice because it was the "good guy" thing to do.</p><p></p><p>[end of non-lawyer wild speculations]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BryonD, post: 1045617, member: 957"] Like I said, I am only speculating. Clearly the PH chart is not open. The question, as you have described, is: "Is the PH chart something that could be protected as IP or is it to basic?". You seem highly confident that it could not be protected. OK. I don't know what background you have to be so certain. I know I don't have any background to make me certain. I do tend to think that if it could not be protected at all, there would be minimal value in excluding it under the D20STL (or even not just putting it in the SRD). So these things make me tend to think that WotC feel they can protect it. But I agree that your point makes sense. I certainly do not think they can protect a simple mathematical progression. That, of course, would be silly. But perhaps the relationship between a given progression and a game mechanic is a different matter? I really do not know. But, like I said before, to me it is not that AU certainly could not use the PH progression. But that the alternate progression used is really no big deal. So there is a slim chance that WotC could claim that he could not do this. Even if they were wrong, that hassle is not worth the bother. More likely than that, because Monte knows (and in many cases is friends with) many people at WotC, he understands that they would not appreciate him reproducing the PH chart, regardless of legal authority. So possibly Monte choose to do so purely because he felt it was the right thing to do. That would certainly be within Monte's character as I have observed him. So I do not know. But without any presumption on the ultimate legal status of the PH progression, I am comfortable presuming that the AU system progression is different do to at least an informal acknowledment of WotC's control over the standard version. And Monte made the choice because it was the "good guy" thing to do. [end of non-lawyer wild speculations] [/QUOTE]
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