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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8254740" data-attributes="member: 18">I'm going to go out on a limb and say that's freakishly high for an adult with a job and an SO and so on (esp. if the SO doesn't also play). Not in a bad way, but as you say, it's a flex, because it's like "Well I bench 450lbs and I'm not even that into weightlifting..." or something. Like it's that unusual.Generally speaking, the only way you can get to that is with an incredibly dedicated normal gaming group, or by playing with strangers a whole lot, and that is something an awful lot of people don't like doing. It also involves a whole lot of extra costs you're ignoring if you're not playing online via Zoom or w/e, like transport, food, drink and so on.There were times earlier in lockdown were we did get in 6 hours/week and that was astonishing, frankly, but now thing are easing up and people have other stuff they have do to, scheduling is once again the main issue (most of my group would rather play RPGs than anything else, but good luck getting them all on the day they haven't agreed to put the baby to bed or whatever).I think you two are arguing at cross-purposes really. In a sense you're both correct and both being pretty silly.I mean, yes, D&D can, theoretically, for a few people, who really want to push things, be relatively cheap. It is not easy to arrange things so it's that cheap, and it's never going to compare well to streaming or MMORPGs or the like in terms of entertainment/hour. Also you're both showing your age here, if we want to talk cheap entertainment, Twitch and YouTube are both free and provide literally endless entertainment. As do a lot of video games.But it's not a very helpful or realistic attitude.Whereas [USER=86653]@overgeeked[/USER] is perhaps over-cooking it slightly in suggesting playing an RPG is an "expensive" hobby, because for a lot of people the only expenses are travel and food, and maybe a set of dice or a book or three, but some people in the group are likely to be bearing a much, much larger cost. If you're a DM for multiple different RPGs, that's going to rapidly set you back quite a lot of money, even with PDFs (I saved a lot by buying a £400 laptop which folds into a huge tablet-thing and switching to PDFs, it's paid for itself over a few years, and saves insane weight).And you can easily make gaming into an expensive hobby, without even trying very hard, if you start using minis, maps, terrain, dice towers, lots of dice, fancy dice, and so on.I hate to say it, but I think it's fair to say the answer is somewhere between "sooooooooo cheap! the cheapest!" and "omg expensive" here. It's easy and cheap to be a hanger-on, but it can get quite pricey to be a DM.I think we can all agree it's generally cheaper than boardgames, at least, unless you're a total hanger-on for those as well.</blockquote>

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