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<blockquote data-quote="Anubis" data-source="post: 925694" data-attributes="member: 2358"><p>"The spells' durations do not begin until the <em>time stop</em> is over."</p><p></p><p>I would agree that this could cause some confusion for some people, although I still personally feel no confusion. I will explain as best I can why I believe some of you are reading this wrong.</p><p></p><p>I think the key is the sentence right before it. "While <em>time stop</em> is in effect, other creatures are invulnerable to your attacks and spells; however you can create spell efects and leave them to take effect whyen the <em>time stop</em> ends."</p><p></p><p>Based on the obvious spirit of the rules, I look at these two sentences together and decipher it that way. This spell is not intended to be an all powerful killer of everything, so being allowed to "leave" instantaneous spells is obviously not in accordance with the spirit of the rules. What then do these two sentences mean?</p><p></p><p>I think it is a case of overexplanation, and I think that the spirit of the rules make this fairly obvious, which is why I believe the spell description is quite clear. I see this as being able to mean only one thing when you factor in everything. All things considered, it is clear to me that these two sentences are merely explaining that you can leave delayed effects to start once the spell ends, and that since you cast it so fast, the durations of such timed spells count down after the spell ends.</p><p></p><p>Looking at this, perhaps I may be in the minority in believing that this wording is as clear as I thought, but then again, I also understood the item creation rules the first time I read them, so I guess I may just be better at seeing through bad wording. In that case, I apologize for assuming that the wording was so clear to everyone else. There is obviously a need for clarification on the matter. I think that if they leave the spell mostly the same in the revisions, however, my interpretation here will hold out to be correct.</p><p></p><p>I guess all that's left is to wait and see.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Anubis, post: 925694, member: 2358"] "The spells' durations do not begin until the [i]time stop[/i] is over." I would agree that this could cause some confusion for some people, although I still personally feel no confusion. I will explain as best I can why I believe some of you are reading this wrong. I think the key is the sentence right before it. "While [i]time stop[/i] is in effect, other creatures are invulnerable to your attacks and spells; however you can create spell efects and leave them to take effect whyen the [i]time stop[/i] ends." Based on the obvious spirit of the rules, I look at these two sentences together and decipher it that way. This spell is not intended to be an all powerful killer of everything, so being allowed to "leave" instantaneous spells is obviously not in accordance with the spirit of the rules. What then do these two sentences mean? I think it is a case of overexplanation, and I think that the spirit of the rules make this fairly obvious, which is why I believe the spell description is quite clear. I see this as being able to mean only one thing when you factor in everything. All things considered, it is clear to me that these two sentences are merely explaining that you can leave delayed effects to start once the spell ends, and that since you cast it so fast, the durations of such timed spells count down after the spell ends. Looking at this, perhaps I may be in the minority in believing that this wording is as clear as I thought, but then again, I also understood the item creation rules the first time I read them, so I guess I may just be better at seeing through bad wording. In that case, I apologize for assuming that the wording was so clear to everyone else. There is obviously a need for clarification on the matter. I think that if they leave the spell mostly the same in the revisions, however, my interpretation here will hold out to be correct. I guess all that's left is to wait and see. [/QUOTE]
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