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<blockquote data-quote="rooneg" data-source="post: 8738703" data-attributes="member: 6779504">So, on one hand I like the “just don’t let them roll if they can’t succeed” answer, but there are drawbacks to it. You have to TELL the player that they can’t succeed, and I can envision situations where that would be a problem. Are they somewhat contrived situations? Yeah, maybe, but they do exist, and they weren’t a problem before.Not to mention, it quickly runs into questions of what qualifies as “impossible”? I can envision tasks that some characters should have a very slim chance of succeeding at (the Arcana trained Wizard might know that obscure thing), but I don’t ever want the untrained in Arcana Fighter to be able to succeed. Now maybe they’re going to solve this with VERY clear rules about how the DM should adjudicate who can make a check and so forth, but it’s not clear this is better than the old way, other than the fact that it “solves” the problem that lots of people can’t be bothered to read the rules.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="rooneg, post: 8738703, member: 6779504"] So, on one hand I like the “just don’t let them roll if they can’t succeed” answer, but there are drawbacks to it. You have to TELL the player that they can’t succeed, and I can envision situations where that would be a problem. Are they somewhat contrived situations? Yeah, maybe, but they do exist, and they weren’t a problem before. Not to mention, it quickly runs into questions of what qualifies as “impossible”? I can envision tasks that some characters should have a very slim chance of succeeding at (the Arcana trained Wizard might know that obscure thing), but I don’t ever want the untrained in Arcana Fighter to be able to succeed. Now maybe they’re going to solve this with VERY clear rules about how the DM should adjudicate who can make a check and so forth, but it’s not clear this is better than the old way, other than the fact that it “solves” the problem that lots of people can’t be bothered to read the rules. [/QUOTE]

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