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<blockquote data-quote="Minigiant" data-source="post: 8738779" data-attributes="member: 63508">It's really a change in philosophy if 5.5e goes with auto success and auto fails.Before, a DM could say a bit of lore is a very obscure subject that few speak about and is kept secret so the DC is 22. This put the <s>check</s> test out of the range of the rogue with a +0 modifier but the wizard with a +6 and the fighter with a +2 have a chance.With autosuccess you must now choose.Let the rogue roll, stating there is some random off chance they stumbled on this information via a random conversation or a pass through in a book and were mindful enough to retain it Don't let the rogue roll, claim that the info is so obscure or guarded that the rogue would never learn about it nor recall it if they happen to hear or read it due to their combined lack of talent and investment.AKA it strengths two points of DM fiat over just one.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Minigiant, post: 8738779, member: 63508"] It's really a change in philosophy if 5.5e goes with auto success and auto fails. Before, a DM could say a bit of lore is a very obscure subject that few speak about and is kept secret so the DC is 22. This put the [S]check[/S] test out of the range of the rogue with a +0 modifier but the wizard with a +6 and the fighter with a +2 have a chance. With autosuccess you must now choose. Let the rogue roll, stating there is some random off chance they stumbled on this information via a random conversation or a pass through in a book and were mindful enough to retain it Don't let the rogue roll, claim that the info is so obscure or guarded that the rogue would never learn about it nor recall it if they happen to hear or read it due to their combined lack of talent and investment. AKA it strengths two points of DM fiat over just one. [/QUOTE]

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