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<blockquote data-quote="Smackpixi" data-source="post: 8748624" data-attributes="member: 7028579"><p>[USER=23751]@Maxperson[/USER] </p><p></p><p>you said”</p><p></p><p>This is provably false as written. The new rule does not make any such requirement, so it falls to the DMG rules which state that the DM is the one to decide when rolls are appropriate.”</p><p></p><p>I’m asking, are you sure?</p><p></p><p>I’m not trying to override the DMG or the DMs ability to deny rolls. But, if 20 is an auto success, the only way for this rule to have meaning is if the player should be allowed to roll for something that the player’s stats say is impossible for them. Is that not correct?</p><p></p><p>If that’s correct, That then means they should get to roll on anything that SOMEONE could do. Anything that has a DC. Yes, they can’t roll on impossible things, and a DM also can deny a roll if they want, but if a DM denies a roll on a theoretically possible thing (anything with a DC) they are overriding the 20 auto success rule, which is their prerogative sure, but is ignoring a rule.</p><p></p><p>which goes back to my point, rollable for one (possible, has a DC) is rollable for all (cause 20 will succeed). </p><p></p><p>How can a 20 auto success rule have any meaning otherwise?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Smackpixi, post: 8748624, member: 7028579"] [USER=23751]@Maxperson[/USER] you said” This is provably false as written. The new rule does not make any such requirement, so it falls to the DMG rules which state that the DM is the one to decide when rolls are appropriate.” I’m asking, are you sure? I’m not trying to override the DMG or the DMs ability to deny rolls. But, if 20 is an auto success, the only way for this rule to have meaning is if the player should be allowed to roll for something that the player’s stats say is impossible for them. Is that not correct? If that’s correct, That then means they should get to roll on anything that SOMEONE could do. Anything that has a DC. Yes, they can’t roll on impossible things, and a DM also can deny a roll if they want, but if a DM denies a roll on a theoretically possible thing (anything with a DC) they are overriding the 20 auto success rule, which is their prerogative sure, but is ignoring a rule. which goes back to my point, rollable for one (possible, has a DC) is rollable for all (cause 20 will succeed). How can a 20 auto success rule have any meaning otherwise? [/QUOTE]
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