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<blockquote data-quote="clearstream" data-source="post: 8748783" data-attributes="member: 71699">Do you mean, in the case that multiple characters are attempting something at the same DC, and for some of those characters the check would not be uncertain barring the auto-success/fail, then DM potentially needs to decide if they should even call for checks from those specific characters?The example to hand is jumping. To me, it should focus thought on the fictional situation, not the DC. Say the pit is 20' wide? One character has Strength 16, another Strength 8. Here, I think the group should have decided the meaning of the words &quot;an unusually long distance&quot; in their fiction. Does it mean more than twice base distance, or maybe up to twice? Less? What do they picture?Say they decide it's up to twice. DM calls for checks, telling players &quot;roll if twice your strength is 20 or more&quot;. In all cases, think about what is pictured, not the individual check modifiers. For similar reasons, one DM might say &quot;roll if you have proficiency with thieves' tools&quot; or even &quot;roll only if you have expertise with thieves' tools!&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="clearstream, post: 8748783, member: 71699"] Do you mean, in the case that multiple characters are attempting something at the same DC, and for some of those characters the check would not be uncertain barring the auto-success/fail, then DM potentially needs to decide if they should even call for checks from those specific characters? The example to hand is jumping. To me, it should focus thought on the fictional situation, not the DC. Say the pit is 20' wide? One character has Strength 16, another Strength 8. Here, I think the group should have decided the meaning of the words "an unusually long distance" in their fiction. Does it mean more than twice base distance, or maybe up to twice? Less? What do they picture? Say they decide it's up to twice. DM calls for checks, telling players "roll if twice your strength is 20 or more". In all cases, think about what is pictured, not the individual check modifiers. For similar reasons, one DM might say "roll if you have proficiency with thieves' tools" or even "roll only if you have expertise with thieves' tools!" [/QUOTE]

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