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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 8748795" data-attributes="member: 23751">Quite frankly, that's irrelevant.&nbsp;&nbsp; Per RAW you get to decide what is impossible for your table and only your table, and I get to do the same with mine.&nbsp; You not agreeing with me on what is or isn't impossible doesn't change the rule.Then that's how it works in your game.That is not how it's written and in a playtest, it's worthless to try and figure out what they meant to write, since you are testing new rules that could change at any time.&nbsp; You test what it says, not what you think they meant.What the new rules say is that the DM decides and only if the DM thinks it's appropriate/warranted is there a roll. And only if there is a roll is auto 20 in play.Then that's how it is in your game.I certainly hope so! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue&nbsp; &nbsp; :p"&nbsp; data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />They are codifying that if you allow a roll, a 20 can succeed, even if the DC is beyond the bonuses + a roll of 20.&nbsp; So if the DM allows someone with +2 to roll for a DC 25 check, even though the max roll is 22, a 20 still succeeds.&nbsp; That's it. That's how it is written.So again, the guy with the 3 strength will never make it 21 feet.&nbsp; To allow him to go 7 times the distance is to also allow someone with a 20 strength to go 147 feet with a jump.&nbsp; It's absurd. It's not possible.&nbsp; No roll for the guy with a 3 strength.&nbsp; Yes roll for the guy with a 20 strength.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 8748795, member: 23751"] Quite frankly, that's irrelevant. Per RAW you get to decide what is impossible for your table and only your table, and I get to do the same with mine. You not agreeing with me on what is or isn't impossible doesn't change the rule. Then that's how it works in your game. That is not how it's written and in a playtest, it's worthless to try and figure out what they meant to write, since you are testing new rules that could change at any time. You test what it says, not what you think they meant. What the new rules say is that the DM decides and only if the DM thinks it's appropriate/warranted is there a roll. And only if there is a roll is auto 20 in play. Then that's how it is in your game. I certainly hope so! :p They are codifying that if you allow a roll, a 20 can succeed, even if the DC is beyond the bonuses + a roll of 20. So if the DM allows someone with +2 to roll for a DC 25 check, even though the max roll is 22, a 20 still succeeds. That's it. That's how it is written. So again, the guy with the 3 strength will never make it 21 feet. To allow him to go 7 times the distance is to also allow someone with a 20 strength to go 147 feet with a jump. It's absurd. It's not possible. No roll for the guy with a 3 strength. Yes roll for the guy with a 20 strength. [/QUOTE]

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