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<blockquote data-quote="Aurio" data-source="post: 2335154" data-attributes="member: 24583"><p>AUTOMATIC QUICKEN SPELL [EPIC] </p><p>Prerequisites: Quicken Spell, Spellcraft 30 ranks, ability to cast 9th-level arcane or divine spells. </p><p>Benefit: The character may cast all 0-, 1st-, 2nd-, and 3rd-level spells as quickened spells without using higher-level spell slots. The normal limit to the number of quickened spells a character may cast per round applies. Spells with a casting time of more than 1 full round can’t be quickened. </p><p>Special: A character can gain this feat multiple times. Each time a character takes the feat, the spells of his or her next three lowest spell levels can now be quickened with no adjustment to their spell slots. This feat doesn’t increase the casting time for those spells that normally become full-round actions when cast in metamagic form. </p><p></p><p></p><p>My question is: does the spell <strong>initially</strong> need to be of one of the allowed levels, or do you first have to apply any adjustments from other metamagic feats etc before calculating the spell's level and thereby determining whether it can or cannot be affected by this feat?</p><p></p><p>EXAMPLE: say a spellcaster has taken this feat once. He can quicken any spell up to level 3 without change to it's level, so he can quicken a fireball spell in this way. But what if he wants to quicken an empowered fireball spell? does it count as a 3rd level spell or a 5th level one? can he/she or can he/she not quicken it without cost?</p><p></p><p>One of my players confronted me with this dilema today and though i said a fireball is a level 3 spell regardless of what slot you expend to prepare it i'm having second thoughts. So if you can help me reach a conclusion, before my player takes the feat thus making changing my interpretation of it difficult, i'd be really grateful.</p><p></p><p>Thnx for thy precious time</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Aurio, post: 2335154, member: 24583"] AUTOMATIC QUICKEN SPELL [EPIC] Prerequisites: Quicken Spell, Spellcraft 30 ranks, ability to cast 9th-level arcane or divine spells. Benefit: The character may cast all 0-, 1st-, 2nd-, and 3rd-level spells as quickened spells without using higher-level spell slots. The normal limit to the number of quickened spells a character may cast per round applies. Spells with a casting time of more than 1 full round can’t be quickened. Special: A character can gain this feat multiple times. Each time a character takes the feat, the spells of his or her next three lowest spell levels can now be quickened with no adjustment to their spell slots. This feat doesn’t increase the casting time for those spells that normally become full-round actions when cast in metamagic form. My question is: does the spell [B]initially[/B] need to be of one of the allowed levels, or do you first have to apply any adjustments from other metamagic feats etc before calculating the spell's level and thereby determining whether it can or cannot be affected by this feat? EXAMPLE: say a spellcaster has taken this feat once. He can quicken any spell up to level 3 without change to it's level, so he can quicken a fireball spell in this way. But what if he wants to quicken an empowered fireball spell? does it count as a 3rd level spell or a 5th level one? can he/she or can he/she not quicken it without cost? One of my players confronted me with this dilema today and though i said a fireball is a level 3 spell regardless of what slot you expend to prepare it i'm having second thoughts. So if you can help me reach a conclusion, before my player takes the feat thus making changing my interpretation of it difficult, i'd be really grateful. Thnx for thy precious time [/QUOTE]
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