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AV allows magic item power creep. Am I overlooking something?
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<blockquote data-quote="keterys" data-source="post: 4642737" data-attributes="member: 43019"><p>Items can have multiple properties - see Black Iron Scale and compare to Resistance. Or compare that to Deathcut, for something which effectively has three. Or Gauntlets of Ogre Power which have a power and a property and are far from broken, etc. Manshoon's Mask from the FRCG is an extreme variant thereof with like a dozen different properties and powers.</p><p></p><p>At any rate, Power Creep is the process by which power creeps upwards as new options appear - it's often sped up by miscosted items and new synergies. So, there may be power creep via miscosting (such as suggested by the OP of just assuming there can be a formula taking the level difference, which breaks for many item types), but I'd suggest not doing that. If anything, I'd suggest overcosting because there's no reason to encourage the tactic and it's safer for the game to do so.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There is nothing that allows you to do this, you are incorrect.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Nothing? The same that you'd do if someone wanted to just design a new item that included the relevant properties instead of combining them? You still need to figure out the appropriate level/cost for it to be balanced and if you're in a game that doesn't do that, then it's a non-issue.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="keterys, post: 4642737, member: 43019"] Items can have multiple properties - see Black Iron Scale and compare to Resistance. Or compare that to Deathcut, for something which effectively has three. Or Gauntlets of Ogre Power which have a power and a property and are far from broken, etc. Manshoon's Mask from the FRCG is an extreme variant thereof with like a dozen different properties and powers. At any rate, Power Creep is the process by which power creeps upwards as new options appear - it's often sped up by miscosted items and new synergies. So, there may be power creep via miscosting (such as suggested by the OP of just assuming there can be a formula taking the level difference, which breaks for many item types), but I'd suggest not doing that. If anything, I'd suggest overcosting because there's no reason to encourage the tactic and it's safer for the game to do so. There is nothing that allows you to do this, you are incorrect. Nothing? The same that you'd do if someone wanted to just design a new item that included the relevant properties instead of combining them? You still need to figure out the appropriate level/cost for it to be balanced and if you're in a game that doesn't do that, then it's a non-issue. [/QUOTE]
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