Avalon Hill or other Military Boardgames?

[driver8]

Hopefully this is the right place.

When I was younger, I had quite a few of the AH military boardgames. Gettysburg, the Panzer series and my favorite War and Peace.

Has anyone played the more recent AH games- not counting Axis and Aliies. Any recommendatiosn from other wargame companies? Im not really a grognard and like bigger strategic level games.

thanks

 

[isidorus]

Is Avalon Hill making war games? I still have and l play Squad leader and Cross of Iron.

Trying to sell my thrid Reich though, I cannot get anyone to play

 

[tmaaas]

Avalon Hill is now owned by Hasbro.

It's not so much a company as a brand name, now.

 

[Ranger REG]

Owned by Hasbro, under the management of WotC.

The next product coming out under the AH label is RISK: GODSTORM.

 

[Sir Whiskers]

Hopefully this is the right place.

When I was younger, I had quite a few of the AH military boardgames. Gettysburg, the Panzer series and my favorite War and Peace.

Has anyone played the more recent AH games- not counting Axis and Aliies. Any recommendatiosn from other wargame companies? Im not really a grognard and like bigger strategic level games.

thanks

My experience is that AH is producing only "beer and pretzels" games now. That's not a knock on the games - I'm a big fan of the original Axis and Allies precisely because it's not a monster game. Still, I miss the old AH/SPI games.

If you're looking for something closer to those, you'll have to look at other companies:

World in Flames is still the best strategic level game of World War II (IMO). Matrix Games is working on a computer version, but I don't expect they'll finish it for at least another year or more.
http://www.a-d-g.com.au/

Paths of Glory (WWI) has gotten great reviews, but it's out of print, so you can only find it on eBay.
http://www.gmtgames.com/nnpg/pog_main.html

Europe Engulfed has also gotten great reviews. It has a simple rules-set, but interesting gameplay, as unit strengths are hidden from opponents.
http://www.gmtgames.com/bleu/main.html

There is a new version of Third Reich, called Advanced Third Reich (naturally), that improves on the original a lot. I've only played it once, and the rules are as complex as the original, but it's fun. This one was published by Avalon Hill, but I'm pretty sure it's out of print. I got my copy on eBay.

There are some good games by Richard Berg, Mark Herman, and others - I suggest using google to track them down. There are a lot of smaller game companies right now, but no one fills the role of AH or SPI in their heyday.

Fair warning, none of these games are cheap. Europe Engulfed has a msrp of $99.99, though I found it for a third off. Paths of Glory is selling well north of $50 on eBay. World in Flames, IIRC, is around $100+. The most reasonable was Advanced Third Reich, which I picked up on eBay for less than $30 (includiing shipping), but I had to be patient to get that price.

Also, don't forget to check eBay for some of the older titles. I've picked up a number of games in the past year that I lost or gave away over the years. Mostly for nostalgia, but some because they're still classics. Now if I can just find a few players with similar sentiments to game with...

Hope this helps. Good luck.

 

[driver8]

My experience is that AH is producing only "beer and pretzels" games now. That's not a knock on the games - I'm a big fan of the original Axis and Allies precisely because it's not a monster game. Still, I miss the old AH/SPI games.

If you're looking for something closer to those, you'll have to look at other companies:

World in Flames is still the best strategic level game of World War II (IMO). Matrix Games is working on a computer version, but I don't expect they'll finish it for at least another year or more.
http://www.a-d-g.com.au/

Paths of Glory (WWI) has gotten great reviews, but it's out of print, so you can only find it on eBay.
http://www.gmtgames.com/nnpg/pog_main.html

Europe Engulfed has also gotten great reviews. It has a simple rules-set, but interesting gameplay, as unit strengths are hidden from opponents.
http://www.gmtgames.com/bleu/main.html

There is a new version of Third Reich, called Advanced Third Reich (naturally), that improves on the original a lot. I've only played it once, and the rules are as complex as the original, but it's fun. This one was published by Avalon Hill, but I'm pretty sure it's out of print. I got my copy on eBay.

There are some good games by Richard Berg, Mark Herman, and others - I suggest using google to track them down. There are a lot of smaller game companies right now, but no one fills the role of AH or SPI in their heyday.

Fair warning, none of these games are cheap. Europe Engulfed has a msrp of $99.99, though I found it for a third off. Paths of Glory is selling well north of $50 on eBay. World in Flames, IIRC, is around $100+. The most reasonable was Advanced Third Reich, which I picked up on eBay for less than $30 (includiing shipping), but I had to be patient to get that price.

Also, don't forget to check eBay for some of the older titles. I've picked up a number of games in the past year that I lost or gave away over the years. Mostly for nostalgia, but some because they're still classics. Now if I can just find a few players with similar sentiments to game with...

Hope this helps. Good luck.

Thanks for the info.

 

[craftyrat]

There is also A World at War www.gmtgames.com/waw/main.html. I don't know anything about it, but it says it is based on Advanced Third Reich. And you have to love a game with 2,800 counters...

I own World in Flames and have found it to be enjoyable, though hardly perfect.

craftyrat

 

[Iron_Chef]

I have Axis & Allies: Iron Blitz Computer Version, which has dreadful AI (I can beat the computer as the Axis in 3 rounds!). Still, it saves a lot of trouble over setting up the tabletop version and accomodates up to 5 players, so it's pretty sweet in that regard. It adds in alt. scenarios (Cold War, alt. history, starting war in 1939 or 1945), marines and destroyer units, and is competely editable as to unit values (cost, attack, defense, move). I also liked Axis & Allies: Europe tabletop; never played the Pacific version. Curious about the 2004 revised A&A tabletop game, which alters the map a bit, adds in new units and special powers for the empires.

I give the AH tabletop "Risk: 2210 A.D." a big thumbs-up. A fantastic and futuristic updating of the classic game that keeps the rules simple while still upping player options.

What is this about Risk: Godstorm? Sounds like Age of Mythology but like Risk: 2210 A.D.!

 

[Ranger REG]

What is this about Risk: Godstorm? Sounds like Age of Mythology but like Risk: 2210 A.D.!

Yep. That's what it sounds like. The players can use the supernatural powers of the four gods (Magic, Death, Sky, and War). There is even the continent of Atlantis, which you could destroy by the draw of a single card.

Not only that, the game play not only takes place on the main mapboard depicting ancient Earth, but a secondary board depicting the mythological underworld.

 

[Ranger REG]

What is this about Risk: Godstorm? Sounds like Age of Mythology but like Risk: 2210 A.D.!

Yep. That's what it sounds like. The players can use the supernatural powers of the four gods (Magic, Death, Sky, and War). There is even the continent of Atlantis, which you could destroy by the draw of a single card.

Not only that, the game play not only takes place on the main mapboard depicting ancient Earth, but a secondary board depicting the mythological underworld.