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<blockquote data-quote="Stalker0" data-source="post: 9727074" data-attributes="member: 5889"><p>ok lets do a CR sanity check.</p><p></p><p>Damage: Flame strike is 49 average damage x2 = 98. Then the unholy word is 28 x2 = 56. So based on the 1/day and the 5-6 recharge we will assume one use of each of these in a 3 round standard combat. For now I will ignore the other spells since they don't do damage, and then give them some consideration later.</p><p></p><p>Round 1: 98 (flame strike) + 56 (unholy word) + 27x5 (black gauntlet + 4 LA black gauntlet) + 66 (closed fist) = 355 damage</p><p>Round 2/3: 27x5 + 66 = 201</p><p></p><p>Overall average: 355 + 201 + 201 / 3 = 252</p><p></p><p></p><p>Then we have 5 legendary resistance + magic resistance + 4 saves profs.</p><p></p><p>That puts us firmly at: <strong>CR24</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p>So based on your desired CR range we are way off target (note I didn't even increase CR for teh numerous conditions here, this is just raw basic damage). Simply put, you still have way way way too much damage here. I would start with a few simple adjustments:</p><p></p><p>1) Remove the damage from unholy word. The stun is alright great and scary.</p><p>2) Remove flame strike. All other bane spells are about control, keep the theme and lower your damage.</p><p>3) Remove the closed fist. Its a weird damage spike compared to all of your other attacks and again its just piling on damage you don't need for this CR.</p><p>4) Drop the black gauntlet to 19 avg damage</p><p></p><p>With those changes we are done to: 95 damage per round, and a CR18 (but offensive CR only 15). Considering all of the conditions this guy can also throw in, that seems a lot more reasonable for what you are going for.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Stalker0, post: 9727074, member: 5889"] ok lets do a CR sanity check. Damage: Flame strike is 49 average damage x2 = 98. Then the unholy word is 28 x2 = 56. So based on the 1/day and the 5-6 recharge we will assume one use of each of these in a 3 round standard combat. For now I will ignore the other spells since they don't do damage, and then give them some consideration later. Round 1: 98 (flame strike) + 56 (unholy word) + 27x5 (black gauntlet + 4 LA black gauntlet) + 66 (closed fist) = 355 damage Round 2/3: 27x5 + 66 = 201 Overall average: 355 + 201 + 201 / 3 = 252 Then we have 5 legendary resistance + magic resistance + 4 saves profs. That puts us firmly at: [B]CR24[/B] So based on your desired CR range we are way off target (note I didn't even increase CR for teh numerous conditions here, this is just raw basic damage). Simply put, you still have way way way too much damage here. I would start with a few simple adjustments: 1) Remove the damage from unholy word. The stun is alright great and scary. 2) Remove flame strike. All other bane spells are about control, keep the theme and lower your damage. 3) Remove the closed fist. Its a weird damage spike compared to all of your other attacks and again its just piling on damage you don't need for this CR. 4) Drop the black gauntlet to 19 avg damage With those changes we are done to: 95 damage per round, and a CR18 (but offensive CR only 15). Considering all of the conditions this guy can also throw in, that seems a lot more reasonable for what you are going for. [/QUOTE]
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