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<blockquote data-quote="Jester David" data-source="post: 7601178" data-attributes="member: 37579"><p>Well, Hawkeye was retired already. So he returns to retirement with his family and has an "end". Back to retirement really. (Although, they're talking about a mini-series on Disney+ to pass the Hawkeye torch to Kate Bishop.)</p><p>Hulk... is smart and lost an arm. So he's likely just being a scientist guy again and not being a hero. Again, he found his happy ending between movies.</p><p>So that's five out of the six.</p><p></p><p>The old wild card was Thor, who was expected to have an end, but they changed their mind at the last minute because <em>Ragnarok</em> did well and the actor wants to stick around...</p><p></p><p></p><p>Minutes spread out over the hours. </p><p>Pretty much every single scene with Thor is laughing at him. After the prologue, every scene Thor is a part of is him being the fat comedic relief. </p><p>His role in the film is being Melissa McCarthy/ Chris Farley.</p><p></p><p>Even a character that pretty much wholly exists as comedic relief (like Groot or Rocket) got wholehearted honestly emotional scenes in their films. Thor doesn't. He's continually the punchline. And his emotional pain and psychological trauma is treated as a freakin' joke. Oh, he lost everything and failed everyone and is now an overweight alcoholic. He has to threaten twelve year olds playing video games. He has to run away from his ex, likely dooming people again to get drink. Ha <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />ing ha.</p><p></p><p>Would that work for Cap? Iron Man. Can you imagine if they had decided to just make fun of Captain America continually for the entire movie? If they had stuck Chris Evans in the fat suit and made Cap give rambling speeches while running away from his mission because he wasn't able to lead the team. </p><p>Heck, Iron Man would make sense as a drunk. <em>Demon in a Bottle</em> is a famous character arc. Just a drunken Tony being extra belligerent with people making jokes about if he still fits in the armour. And then the scene in the 1950s where he meets his dad again, his father tells him to ease off the drink and stick to salad.</p><p></p><p>Iron Man gets an amazing and touching scene where he makes peace with his dad and gets to say "goodbye", which was a major regret from <em>Civil War</em>. Thor gets shade cast on him from his mom. </p><p></p><p></p><p>He abandons the throne at the end of <em>Dark World</em>. Him taking the throne and leading his people at the end of <em>Ragnarok</em> was character growth. But he's never given a chance to "rule" and then all but abandons his people to sit in a room, getting drunk and playing <em>Fortnite</em>. Having Thor actually assume the responsibility and *act* like a king—to take the job seriously—would have been a decent end to the character. </p><p></p><p>Having him bugger off with Star-lord with more adventures is just returning Thor to where he was before <em>Age of Ultron</em>. Without even Jane Foster really. Heck, so he's pretty much the wandering warrior he was at the beginning of <em>Thor</em>.</p><p></p><p>Again, I think the writers just had zero idea what to do with Thor as a character. So they decided to just rely on Chris Hemsworth's effortless charm and perfect comedic timing. So rather than make Thor into a character people care about and give people a reason to like Thor—like they did for Captain America and Iron Man—they changed Thor to match the actor. </p><p>And because the actor is willing to stick around, he's likely in <em>Guardians 3</em>. Not because he really belongs with that team or has a role to play in the next cosmic story. But because the actor has chemistry with Chris Pratt. Where he will likely continue to be a giant walking joke.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jester David, post: 7601178, member: 37579"] Well, Hawkeye was retired already. So he returns to retirement with his family and has an "end". Back to retirement really. (Although, they're talking about a mini-series on Disney+ to pass the Hawkeye torch to Kate Bishop.) Hulk... is smart and lost an arm. So he's likely just being a scientist guy again and not being a hero. Again, he found his happy ending between movies. So that's five out of the six. The old wild card was Thor, who was expected to have an end, but they changed their mind at the last minute because [I]Ragnarok[/I] did well and the actor wants to stick around... Minutes spread out over the hours. Pretty much every single scene with Thor is laughing at him. After the prologue, every scene Thor is a part of is him being the fat comedic relief. His role in the film is being Melissa McCarthy/ Chris Farley. Even a character that pretty much wholly exists as comedic relief (like Groot or Rocket) got wholehearted honestly emotional scenes in their films. Thor doesn't. He's continually the punchline. And his emotional pain and psychological trauma is treated as a freakin' joke. Oh, he lost everything and failed everyone and is now an overweight alcoholic. He has to threaten twelve year olds playing video games. He has to run away from his ex, likely dooming people again to get drink. Ha :):):):)ing ha. Would that work for Cap? Iron Man. Can you imagine if they had decided to just make fun of Captain America continually for the entire movie? If they had stuck Chris Evans in the fat suit and made Cap give rambling speeches while running away from his mission because he wasn't able to lead the team. Heck, Iron Man would make sense as a drunk. [I]Demon in a Bottle[/I] is a famous character arc. Just a drunken Tony being extra belligerent with people making jokes about if he still fits in the armour. And then the scene in the 1950s where he meets his dad again, his father tells him to ease off the drink and stick to salad. Iron Man gets an amazing and touching scene where he makes peace with his dad and gets to say "goodbye", which was a major regret from [I]Civil War[/I]. Thor gets shade cast on him from his mom. He abandons the throne at the end of [I]Dark World[/I]. Him taking the throne and leading his people at the end of [I]Ragnarok[/I] was character growth. But he's never given a chance to "rule" and then all but abandons his people to sit in a room, getting drunk and playing [I]Fortnite[/I]. Having Thor actually assume the responsibility and *act* like a king—to take the job seriously—would have been a decent end to the character. Having him bugger off with Star-lord with more adventures is just returning Thor to where he was before [I]Age of Ultron[/I]. Without even Jane Foster really. Heck, so he's pretty much the wandering warrior he was at the beginning of [I]Thor[/I]. Again, I think the writers just had zero idea what to do with Thor as a character. So they decided to just rely on Chris Hemsworth's effortless charm and perfect comedic timing. So rather than make Thor into a character people care about and give people a reason to like Thor—like they did for Captain America and Iron Man—they changed Thor to match the actor. And because the actor is willing to stick around, he's likely in [I]Guardians 3[/I]. Not because he really belongs with that team or has a role to play in the next cosmic story. But because the actor has chemistry with Chris Pratt. Where he will likely continue to be a giant walking joke. [/QUOTE]
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