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<blockquote data-quote="Blue" data-source="post: 7601597" data-attributes="member: 20564"><p>Just to share, the line from my youngest daughter on the car ride home was "I'm not sure I like that NoobSlayer69 existing is now canon for the MCU."</p><p></p><p><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You mean like they already did to Cap in Spider-Man: Homecoming? Where there was the running gag about his gawd-awful PSAs for students that he was decades out of touch with?</p><p></p><p>All of the MCU movies have humor. Look at how many times things have gone humorously wrong for Tony, in his own Ironman films or in various Avengers.</p><p></p><p>Thor has been the butt of jokes in his own shows, often because of his brother Loki, who hate gnomish paladins with rapiers .. wait, wrong Loki. *ahem* But Ragnarok came and put Thor in that role again and again ... and it worked. Even Hulk outsmarted him with the shocking door field, plus Grandmaster, Valkyrie, and the whole dang environment. Ragnarok did much better than the other Thor movies - grossing greater than 50% more than either of the first two. ($315mil vs. $181mil and $206mil.)</p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.boxofficemojo.com/franchises/chart/?id=thor.htm" target="_blank">https://www.boxofficemojo.com/franchises/chart/?id=thor.htm</a></p><p></p><p>So yes, they found that, like Starlord ("Who?"), Thor did well as the butt-monkey for jokes to be made at. Trying to say that every character should have an equal amount of comedy should be self-evident as wrong - you can't say "this wouldn't work for Cap so it can't be done to Thor".</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>So what I'm hearing is - if they wanted to get rid of Thor, they had a great way to do it. That's great, but it seems they don't want to get rid of Thor.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm with you on this - I don't like all the backsliding of his character growth. He's doing what he always did, which would have been in character if he hadn't grown.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>All of this is likely true. If Hemsworth will stay around as Thor, the studio will have him. If Ragnarok did fantastic financially because he has great comedic timing, putting him with one of the two high comedy teams (Ant-Man is the other, btu that's not as natural a pairing) so that they can math the tone of the movies also makes financial sense.</p><p></p><p>Does what actors want to do, and what brings in profit, always make the best story for everyone? I wish, but it doesn't. If it did, we'd have more Robert Downey Jr. </p><p></p><p>Hemsworth has draw, is in with an MCU team where he can use his comedic talents, and moviegoers know that the GotG films will have a lot of comedy and if that's not their wish they can avoid them. It's not the best it can be, and lets us down some in that they aren't acknowledging the great character growth he's had over the series. But people will still pay to see the next movie.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Blue, post: 7601597, member: 20564"] Just to share, the line from my youngest daughter on the car ride home was "I'm not sure I like that NoobSlayer69 existing is now canon for the MCU." :) You mean like they already did to Cap in Spider-Man: Homecoming? Where there was the running gag about his gawd-awful PSAs for students that he was decades out of touch with? All of the MCU movies have humor. Look at how many times things have gone humorously wrong for Tony, in his own Ironman films or in various Avengers. Thor has been the butt of jokes in his own shows, often because of his brother Loki, who hate gnomish paladins with rapiers .. wait, wrong Loki. *ahem* But Ragnarok came and put Thor in that role again and again ... and it worked. Even Hulk outsmarted him with the shocking door field, plus Grandmaster, Valkyrie, and the whole dang environment. Ragnarok did much better than the other Thor movies - grossing greater than 50% more than either of the first two. ($315mil vs. $181mil and $206mil.) [url]https://www.boxofficemojo.com/franchises/chart/?id=thor.htm[/url] So yes, they found that, like Starlord ("Who?"), Thor did well as the butt-monkey for jokes to be made at. Trying to say that every character should have an equal amount of comedy should be self-evident as wrong - you can't say "this wouldn't work for Cap so it can't be done to Thor". So what I'm hearing is - if they wanted to get rid of Thor, they had a great way to do it. That's great, but it seems they don't want to get rid of Thor. I'm with you on this - I don't like all the backsliding of his character growth. He's doing what he always did, which would have been in character if he hadn't grown. All of this is likely true. If Hemsworth will stay around as Thor, the studio will have him. If Ragnarok did fantastic financially because he has great comedic timing, putting him with one of the two high comedy teams (Ant-Man is the other, btu that's not as natural a pairing) so that they can math the tone of the movies also makes financial sense. Does what actors want to do, and what brings in profit, always make the best story for everyone? I wish, but it doesn't. If it did, we'd have more Robert Downey Jr. Hemsworth has draw, is in with an MCU team where he can use his comedic talents, and moviegoers know that the GotG films will have a lot of comedy and if that's not their wish they can avoid them. It's not the best it can be, and lets us down some in that they aren't acknowledging the great character growth he's had over the series. But people will still pay to see the next movie. [/QUOTE]
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