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<blockquote data-quote="Sunseeker" data-source="post: 6755756">Traps are only gotcha's if your players don't think ahead, and don't search the room carefully.&nbsp; Now there's no guarantee they'll find everything, but they tried.&nbsp; Not knowing is half the fun.&nbsp; Figuring out how to solve the problems you know about is the other half.Gotcha traps happen when players are prepared, plan ahead, play carefully and the DM decides to trip them up because &quot;reasons&quot;.&nbsp; Usually it's over incredibly finite minutea, like oh you searched that brick but not that other brick.&nbsp; Or because they said &quot;I search the north wall&quot; and then the DM hits them with a trap because they didn't phrase their words in exactly the manner the DM wanted them to.&nbsp; These things are NOT FUN.&nbsp; There is a difference between knowing there's danger, not knowing there's danger, and knowing there isn't danger.&nbsp; Traps in the first two cases are fine.&nbsp; Traps in the 3rd are gotchas.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Sunseeker, post: 6755756"] Traps are only gotcha's if your players don't think ahead, and don't search the room carefully. Now there's no guarantee they'll find everything, but they [I]tried[/I]. Not knowing is half the fun. Figuring out how to solve the problems you know about is the other half. Gotcha traps happen when players are prepared, plan ahead, play carefully and the DM decides to trip them up because "reasons". Usually it's over incredibly finite minutea, like oh you searched [I]that[/I] brick but not [I]that other[/I] brick. Or because they said "I search the north wall" and then the DM hits them with a trap because they didn't phrase their words in exactly the manner the DM wanted them to. These things are NOT FUN. There is a difference between knowing there's danger, not knowing there's danger, and knowing there isn't danger. Traps in the first two cases are fine. Traps in the 3rd are gotchas. [/QUOTE]

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