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<blockquote data-quote="JohnSnow" data-source="post: 8954733" data-attributes="member: 32164">I think the fact that we call them &quot;hit points&quot; lends to this confusion. If they were called &quot;luck points,&quot; &quot;fatigue points,&quot; or something similar, people might be more willing to accept losing them on a miss. It also dovetails with D&amp;D's &quot;armor makes you harder to hit&quot; mechanic in such a way that sometimes, it should be an actual hit that is turned aside by your armor and soaked by you (i.e. lost hit points). All of this abstraction makes combat very hard to narrate descriptively, which leads to people falling back on &quot;I miss, he misses...I hit, he takes 20 hit points,&quot; because game rule level descriptions are all we have left.I too have switched to Savage Worlds (albeit more recently), although I'm still trying to run my first game. I like that Savage Worlds models well the differences between hits and misses, although I wish armor was both more effective, and hindered movement more. But the system of tracking wounds that can be healed is nice. And the soak damage being a meta currency representing the whims of fate is nice.There's some glitches with the Savage Worlds system (swinginess, mostly), but overall, it hews much closer to my ideal mechanics for handling this than D&amp;D does. Although if I have any complaint, it's that I really miss getting to use my beloved d20s.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="JohnSnow, post: 8954733, member: 32164"] I think the fact that we call them "hit points" lends to this confusion. If they were called "luck points," "fatigue points," or something similar, people might be more willing to accept losing them on a miss. It also dovetails with D&D's "armor makes you harder to hit" mechanic in such a way that sometimes, it should be an actual hit that is turned aside by your armor and soaked by you (i.e. lost hit points). All of this abstraction makes combat very hard to narrate descriptively, which leads to people falling back on "I miss, he misses...I hit, he takes 20 hit points," because game rule level descriptions are all we have left. I too have switched to Savage Worlds (albeit more recently), although I'm still trying to run my first game. I like that Savage Worlds models well the differences between hits and misses, although I wish armor was both more effective, and hindered movement more. But the system of tracking wounds that can be healed is nice. And the soak damage being a meta currency representing the whims of fate is nice. There's some glitches with the Savage Worlds system (swinginess, mostly), but overall, it hews much closer to my ideal mechanics for handling this than D&D does. Although if I have any complaint, it's that I really miss getting to use my beloved d20s. [/QUOTE]

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