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<blockquote data-quote="Abraxas" data-source="post: 1708042" data-attributes="member: 1266"><p>Alien, Aliens, Alien 3, Predator and even Predator 2 (which was pretty average) Actually I think AVP and CoR are below average for average action flicks - True Lies or Eraser. An average episode of Stargate SG-1 is better than AVP and CoR.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>To-mae-to / To-mah-to. I don't agree. CoR wasn't a very good action flick (I liked Pitch Black much more than CoR). My own personal bias comes into play here. I can forgive a lot more in the average action flick, fantasy movie, horror shocker, high adventure story than I can in a scifi/anything movie. Once they use futuristic scifi type settings they automatically have a higher bar to jump. To many inconsistencies just jar me out of the experience. But thats just me.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>None of which matters to you. [SPOILER]We have to accept that every alien born the first time the predators lost control (and the movie shows thousands of them) all stayed close enough to the central pyramid to be destroyed in the blast when the pred's blew themselves up. And then we have to accept that the predator's stopped returning to earth every hundred years to set up the ultimate hunt after the 2004 debacle (even though they showed something that looked much worse occuring thousands of years earlier). They didn't stop the first time they were overrun so why would they stop after the 2004 incident? If the alien hunt was such an important right of passage why didn't they just rebuild again and start over thousands of years ago? The predators controlled the planet - they could have kept control. Why didn't they?[/SPOILER] Are these contradictions? No, but they make the premise seem pretty stupid.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Actually, in the first movie there is something that suggests they only hunt in extreme heat - at least as far as humans know. [SPOILER]As for the especially brutal test. If the predators value the hunt so highly, why would they always remember their shoulder canons when hunting humans[/SPOILER] - I'm sorry, when you're going gigging for frogs ya don't bring a shotgun <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> .</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Correct - it wasn't hardcore scifi, but it wasn't a very good action flick either. There wasn't enough action. It also wasn't a thriller - nothing in it thrilled me. Alien was horror/scifi, Aliens Action/scifi, Predator Action/scifi (it certainly wasn't scary in any sense). Scifi doesn't have to just address the effects of tech on society (actually most of those type scifi movies bore me to tears)</p><p></p><p> </p><p>I didn't expect a perfect movie - I never do. I avoid movie trailers like the plague so I don't have any expectations. They had two of my favorite scifi critters in the same movie. I really like the AVP games. It wasn't creepy like the alien movies can be or the AVP games are. The combat scenes weren't thrilling like the predator movies or aliens or alien 3. This movie just didn't produce. It was boring.</p><p> </p><p>I think it was a mediocre/bad movie - and if this is the average that we should be shelling out bucks for then things are in a sorry state. I really don't see how paying for bad movies is going to make anyone produce better movies.</p><p> </p><p>But hey, to each their own. I liked Soldier. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Abraxas, post: 1708042, member: 1266"] Alien, Aliens, Alien 3, Predator and even Predator 2 (which was pretty average) Actually I think AVP and CoR are below average for average action flicks - True Lies or Eraser. An average episode of Stargate SG-1 is better than AVP and CoR. To-mae-to / To-mah-to. I don't agree. CoR wasn't a very good action flick (I liked Pitch Black much more than CoR). My own personal bias comes into play here. I can forgive a lot more in the average action flick, fantasy movie, horror shocker, high adventure story than I can in a scifi/anything movie. Once they use futuristic scifi type settings they automatically have a higher bar to jump. To many inconsistencies just jar me out of the experience. But thats just me. None of which matters to you. [SPOILER]We have to accept that every alien born the first time the predators lost control (and the movie shows thousands of them) all stayed close enough to the central pyramid to be destroyed in the blast when the pred's blew themselves up. And then we have to accept that the predator's stopped returning to earth every hundred years to set up the ultimate hunt after the 2004 debacle (even though they showed something that looked much worse occuring thousands of years earlier). They didn't stop the first time they were overrun so why would they stop after the 2004 incident? If the alien hunt was such an important right of passage why didn't they just rebuild again and start over thousands of years ago? The predators controlled the planet - they could have kept control. Why didn't they?[/SPOILER] Are these contradictions? No, but they make the premise seem pretty stupid. Actually, in the first movie there is something that suggests they only hunt in extreme heat - at least as far as humans know. [SPOILER]As for the especially brutal test. If the predators value the hunt so highly, why would they always remember their shoulder canons when hunting humans[/SPOILER] - I'm sorry, when you're going gigging for frogs ya don't bring a shotgun :) . Correct - it wasn't hardcore scifi, but it wasn't a very good action flick either. There wasn't enough action. It also wasn't a thriller - nothing in it thrilled me. Alien was horror/scifi, Aliens Action/scifi, Predator Action/scifi (it certainly wasn't scary in any sense). Scifi doesn't have to just address the effects of tech on society (actually most of those type scifi movies bore me to tears) I didn't expect a perfect movie - I never do. I avoid movie trailers like the plague so I don't have any expectations. They had two of my favorite scifi critters in the same movie. I really like the AVP games. It wasn't creepy like the alien movies can be or the AVP games are. The combat scenes weren't thrilling like the predator movies or aliens or alien 3. This movie just didn't produce. It was boring. I think it was a mediocre/bad movie - and if this is the average that we should be shelling out bucks for then things are in a sorry state. I really don't see how paying for bad movies is going to make anyone produce better movies. But hey, to each their own. I liked Soldier. :) [/QUOTE]
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