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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kaleon Moonshae" data-source="post: 1671065" data-attributes="member: 12147">Number one, I didn't say they had to do it fact you seem to have ignored a lot of my comments so you can turn around and attack be personally, which I have yet to do with you. I said they in no way have to. All I said was that it is understandable (note the word there) that some fans (and a lot of them if you read the movie boards around the web) are a little *let down* (note the words again) that they did not stick with the original screenplay. Also, the original screenplay was not a hack job, you seem to be of the impression that producers and directors scrap screenplays only because they are hackjobs. That is not even remotely the case. The scrap screenplays due to budgit constraints, actor constraints, technology gaps, cencorship, and a host of other reasons. If you label every author that has had his screenplay dropped a hack then every writer in hollywood presetn and past have been hacks. They have *all* had at least one screenplay dropped. If you do not believe thsi then find a single example of a writier in hollywood who has never had something dropped. Also note here that I did not say scott, I specifically pointed out aliens. Alien, and I have admitted this a number of times, is an esception to my logic here and I grant it that and I didn't spend terribly much time trying to justify that part. Look up the screenwriter for aliens and alien3. Look at their interviews, read what they say. Read their comments on the novels. They have given much praise and have consulted almost all of the novelists on what to do. You say I am too emotionally attached, but to me it seems you are. You tend to call the authors of these novels hack, even though some fo them are extremely well known. You acuse me of throwing up straw men, which I know the meaning of very well, since I was a perfect student in logic class. While I may have used one, you seem to insinuate that I do out of emotional attachment, when it could be that I may not agree that it is a strawman. It is always safer not to attack someone first off the bat. I have yet to insult you or your beliefs. I have merely pointed out that I don't agree with thema nd there is a huge difference, one you don't seem to understand.Again with the insulting the authors. I'm not bitter at all, I have stated multiple times now that I think this movie could be good. You simply choose to ignore those comments and persist in this bit about original intent. I liked what I saw. All I ever said was that I was leary of it turning into a jason vs freddy kind of thing, which I think is a well founded fear considering the director and the previews so far. I will also add that it is a fear expressed by a lot of people, just take a look at aicn, hype, ign and some of the other boards arounds. Also, whereas the original predator creator wasn't part of the novels (although John and Jim have made dozens of interviews praising them and they both love the dark horse stuff, and it was their idea that the two should meet at some point), the second movie was actually in production alonside the movie adaptation. The adaptation did a lot the movie couldn't because of budget constraints. I read more than one interview when the comic came out with the creative team involved with the movie and they did a lot of work *together* to make sure both looked the same. That group of people have since been approached by other authors and have helped.. In fact, and here I may be wrong, but I am pretty sure that one of the people involved in the second movie also wrote at least one of the homeworld or genocide books.I am not sure why you insist in trying to convince that your view is the only one. I have admitted that we are both just expressing our beliefs and opinions and neither of us is nec right or wrong here. I don't liekt hat you just blanketly insult all the authors of the books and the comics as hacks without a second thought, because that is unfair to them, but your opinion and so you are welcome to it. Just please, don't insult me when I have yet to personally attack you. Nowhere have you shown exactly what strawmen I used, just thrown the words out there randomly. If I have taken something you said wrong, then tell me specifics, and clearly, instead of placing them within paragraph long insults to people you don't even know.I am not sure where we got off on the wrong foot here, I usually agree with you and have always had respect for you. Since it is obvious that we can't discuss this topic like two adults I think we should just agree to disagree and get back tot eh actual *point* of this thread. Which was our thought on the movie and not the philosophy surrounding it. I respect you and hope that you haven't taken any of this discussion personal as I am trying not to myself. Hope to debate with you more on other things (like world domination and dungeoncraft) that we can approach as adults and not get carried away like we did here.Now saying that: I think the movie can be really good and am looking forward to it. From what I saw in the trailer and read it looks like they didn't skimp on the budget which is good to see. It also looks like they have kept a lot of teh original props just advanced the perido which is also good so we can have gunfights. Let's face it, guns versus aliens are a lot more exciting than obsidian swords which is what the aztecs would have been limited too, lol.</blockquote>

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