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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Quickleaf" data-source="post: 2409837" data-attributes="member: 20323">Great comments, Cheironmancer!I'd like to make it 8th level at the highest.Confession = mind blank (8th)Yes, though it only works only in regard to spoken lies. And you must willingly confess in the flame's presence. I think these two limits bring it down at least a level. I'll say it's adjusted level is 7th.Deev bane = holy sword (4th)Yes, and it is limited to outsiders, not any kind of evil. I think this brings it down a level, so it's adjusted to 3rd.Oathbinding = geas (5th)Yes. I'll edit it to limit the number of uses it has to 1/month per character, and a character may only have 1 oath sworn to any Vrahran Fire at a given time. In addition, the geas may only be taken willingly, which I think reduces the level of the spell by at least 2 levels. The +1 bonus, however increases it by at least 1 level. Also, I'll limit it to LG, LN, or N, or NG persons, reducing its level by 1. About 3rd level.Fiery visions = divination (4th)Yes, though I definitely think it's more limited, probably like a 2nd level spell.Net Level of All Boons: 7+3+3+2 =15thWeaknesses1. I am going to include a revision which states that: "Should the main Vrahran Fire go out, anyone benefitting from one of these 4 boons loses the benefit, and they are immediately aware the fire went out." And all it takes to extinguish it is a standard action, overturning the brazier containing the coals or what have you. (-2 levels)2. The only place you can find the material component is in a large city, and the coals have to be kept hot the whole time, carrying them from the smithy to the spellcasting site. In addtion, you must have a special brazier, cauldron, or other holding device (worth 650 gp) which must be purified in holy water (25 gp) and enchanted with a bless spell. The brazier weighs about 400 pounds, and the Vrahran fire will be snuffed out if anyone but a Lawful Good person moves it from its holy resting place. (-2 levels)3. What sort of XP cost should be included in the spell? I'm thinking 3000 XP. (-3 levels ??)I came up with an 8th level spell after doing this.I totally fudged these values, but I don't know a better system. :\EDIT: Oh! I could use the Intelligent magic item creation rules! Dummy! </blockquote>

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