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<blockquote data-quote="Corwin" data-source="post: 1067182" data-attributes="member: 1560"><p>How does that preclude the creature from benefiting from its construct abilities? It gets to keep anything not expressly removed by the change.</p><p></p><p>Look, take a half-dragon/human for example. As soon as you place the half-dragon template on the human, you change it to a [Dragon] type. Does it lose it's human benefits or abilities? No. It still gets the extra feat and the extra skill points.</p><p></p><p>Same for the tree. It starts as a construct (animated object). Awakening it changes its type to [Plant]. Everything it had before (as a construct) stays unless specifically changed by the spell.</p><p></p><p>So it retains all its animated object stuff, picks up mental abilities and changes to [Plant]. That's it.</p><p></p><p>So no Con score. </p><p></p><p>BTW, I <em>was</em> going to say "my vote is for no Con score...", but that would imply there is any debate requiring a concensus or vote in the first place. This is very clear, straighforward and a non-issue, IMO. So it isn't up for debate, it just is what it is.</p><p></p><p>I should also point out that someone mentioned earlier about the tree having a Con of 0. That's not quite right. It has no Con sore at all (a zero being a score). So it atually has <strong><em>Con: -</em></strong>. There are actually significant differences. Just an FYI.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Corwin, post: 1067182, member: 1560"] How does that preclude the creature from benefiting from its construct abilities? It gets to keep anything not expressly removed by the change. Look, take a half-dragon/human for example. As soon as you place the half-dragon template on the human, you change it to a [Dragon] type. Does it lose it's human benefits or abilities? No. It still gets the extra feat and the extra skill points. Same for the tree. It starts as a construct (animated object). Awakening it changes its type to [Plant]. Everything it had before (as a construct) stays unless specifically changed by the spell. So it retains all its animated object stuff, picks up mental abilities and changes to [Plant]. That's it. So no Con score. BTW, I [i]was[/i] going to say "my vote is for no Con score...", but that would imply there is any debate requiring a concensus or vote in the first place. This is very clear, straighforward and a non-issue, IMO. So it isn't up for debate, it just is what it is. I should also point out that someone mentioned earlier about the tree having a Con of 0. That's not quite right. It has no Con sore at all (a zero being a score). So it atually has [b][i]Con: -[/i][/b]. There are actually significant differences. Just an FYI. [/QUOTE]
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