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<blockquote data-quote="Dyir" data-source="post: 1067442" data-attributes="member: 13293"><p>I believe you mistook my mention of racial vs. type traits. Does a pit fiend retain its fiendish traits: yes. It's outsider traits: no. Thus, it would keep all of its spell-like abilities, SR, elemental resistance, etc. but not the "outsider type" traits (i.e. Darkvision and its inability to be raised, although Darkvision would come back because that's also a Dragon type trait). "Human" is both a race and a subtype, but "Humanoid" is an exception, not the rule. The human racial abilities are not a feature of its subtype, but its race. This is the same as an elf, as a gnome, as a pixie, as a great wyrm red dragon. They all have abilities based upon their types and their races.</p><p></p><p>Most types have so few traits that changing them is negligable. If an animal became a magical beast, what abilities would change? A humanoid to a monsterous humanoid? But the difference between two that have quite a few type traits (like the plant, undead, and construct) could be meaningful.</p><p></p><p>Its fine that an awakened tree has no Constitution score, as that is not required to be a Plant really. It can be treated an an animated object with the Plant type, but it does not have the Construct type nor any abilities associated with it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dyir, post: 1067442, member: 13293"] I believe you mistook my mention of racial vs. type traits. Does a pit fiend retain its fiendish traits: yes. It's outsider traits: no. Thus, it would keep all of its spell-like abilities, SR, elemental resistance, etc. but not the "outsider type" traits (i.e. Darkvision and its inability to be raised, although Darkvision would come back because that's also a Dragon type trait). "Human" is both a race and a subtype, but "Humanoid" is an exception, not the rule. The human racial abilities are not a feature of its subtype, but its race. This is the same as an elf, as a gnome, as a pixie, as a great wyrm red dragon. They all have abilities based upon their types and their races. Most types have so few traits that changing them is negligable. If an animal became a magical beast, what abilities would change? A humanoid to a monsterous humanoid? But the difference between two that have quite a few type traits (like the plant, undead, and construct) could be meaningful. Its fine that an awakened tree has no Constitution score, as that is not required to be a Plant really. It can be treated an an animated object with the Plant type, but it does not have the Construct type nor any abilities associated with it. [/QUOTE]
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