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<blockquote data-quote="Argyle King" data-source="post: 5943463" data-attributes="member: 58416">I'd agree that being encumbered would cause more fatigue.&nbsp; I highly disagree that wearing 45 pounds of armor would cause such a penalty to the ability to fight.&nbsp; Granted, I've never worn plate armor.&nbsp; However, I have worn body armor in combat.&nbsp; While the type of armor I've worn is a lot different than that of a knight, I'd like to believe I have some amount of insight.&nbsp; Beyond that, I don't like the idea of heavily armored D&amp;D characters needing to take a feat to be effective with a piece of equipment they already know how to use.&nbsp; To me, that's starting to edge into 'feat tax' territory.&nbsp; Such a feat or theme becomes too much of a no-brainer choice; even with flatter math.If we're shooting for more realism and granularity, I would agree that using a shield would give a penalty to hit without proper training.&nbsp; D&amp;D as a system would need to be a lot more detailed overall for that to fit in with the rest of the game though.&nbsp; Otherwise, I feel it still edges into feat tax territory.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Argyle King, post: 5943463, member: 58416"] I'd agree that being encumbered would cause more fatigue. I highly disagree that wearing 45 pounds of armor would cause such a penalty to the ability to fight. Granted, I've never worn plate armor. However, I have worn body armor in combat. While the type of armor I've worn is a lot different than that of a knight, I'd like to believe I have some amount of insight. Beyond that, I don't like the idea of heavily armored D&D characters needing to take a feat to be effective with a piece of equipment they already know how to use. To me, that's starting to edge into 'feat tax' territory. Such a feat or theme becomes too much of a no-brainer choice; even with flatter math. If we're shooting for more realism and granularity, I would agree that using a shield would give a penalty to hit without proper training. D&D as a system would need to be a lot more detailed overall for that to fit in with the rest of the game though. Otherwise, I feel it still edges into feat tax territory. [/QUOTE]

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