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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ddougan" data-source="post: 1290304" data-attributes="member: 11480">Whisperfoot, I invited you (and all) into the conversation when I posted asking for peoples' opinions. Instead, you said you were bored of the whole thing. I then suggested that, since the thread was clearly labelled, you didn't have to keep reading at it. I did not try and devalue your opinion because you were bored.I like the B5 product line. I have every AoG product for B5 Wars and Fleet Action and Gropos. I have the Chaosium Electric B5 RPG. I have every Mongoose publication on B5 to date (up to and including the Minbari Federation source book - there's still no sign of Centauri or Point of No Return).And I've said on a number of occassions that the EA Fact Book is very good outside of the racist and negative stereotypical comments that litter "The Many Nations of Earth" section.Right - I said this before on another reply - the *only* apology I could find was from a single Mongoose individual and it appeared to be his own opinion and not a company policy statement. But it wasn't Matt.I've looked for the apology. Its not easily accesible. Do you have a link?And yes, ideally a product recall is the way to go, with anyone returning their book getting postage costs reimbursed and a copy of the second printing without the offensive material.Again - I've not read the apology - but if they are not going to correct this in any second printing - what have they really done other than try to silence the legitimate complaints - then carried on as normal???Your first point is not quite true.RaceA local geographic or global human population distinguished as a more or less distinct group by genetically transmitted physical characteristics. A group of people united or classified together on the basis of common history, nationality, or geographic distribution: the German race. A genealogical line; a lineage. Humans considered as a group. (I believe the second entry covers my definition of race within this thread).As for your second point, am I reading right that its OK to have such slurs against dozens of nations, because the author was equally offensive to so many? (Which is what the title of this thread was all about)I'd like to see the apology. But as I've said in another reply, I'd also expect some level of commitment to resolving it. Safeguards to ensure it won't happen again. And ideally a move to stop the offensive material gaining a wider audience.</blockquote>

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