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<blockquote data-quote="WizarDru" data-source="post: 1271953" data-attributes="member: 151"><p>I don't think I'd be quite that critical, but I agree it wasn't his best. However, I thought that about the original b5 movie, which was pretty weak, too.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>More than half of the White Stars were wiped out during the war, so they were in the process of using many non-Minbari designed ships, which they note in the movie. Once of the characters even mocks the design of their ship in reference to it not being a White Star.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>I don't really recall Sheridan backing down very often during the regular B5 series...playing dirty, yes, but never actually fleeing. Of course, the Rangers are another matter...it's pretty clear that they were locked into dogma, by that point, and I suspect if the series had gone forward, that would have been a major plot of the series, namely old-guard Minbari rangers and their centuries-established codes of conduct versus the new blood.</p><p> </p><p>However, that whole 'never retreat' nonsense did seem to come out of left field, somewhat, and was one of the weakest elements of the movie.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>And the best expert you get on the Hand's power? Their spokesperson. Considering B5 characters penchant for lying, both to friends and enemies, I tend to think "The Hand" has self-inflated their power and importance. Most likely, they were an 'intermediate' race, older than man and considerably younger than the ancient races. Consider that Crusade originally started out about curing the plague...something that JMS had intended to be resolved in the third year of a five year arc. I expect The Hand was a Mcguffin.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Actually, I thought the fire control system was one of the most painful things about the movie. I realize why it worked the way it did (more to do with Ranger philsophy than good design), but it was just terrible to watch.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>I may have my dates mixed up here, but I thought that this predated the Drakh plague. "Legend of the Rangers" took place 3 years after the conclusion of B5's major arc, around 2263 or so, prior to the Telepath war and about 2 years prior to the plague. In fact, I think JMS stated that he had hoped to resolve the plague story somewhere nestled within "Rangers", had it gone to series.</p><p> </p><p>Poor, poor Crusade. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WizarDru, post: 1271953, member: 151"] I don't think I'd be quite that critical, but I agree it wasn't his best. However, I thought that about the original b5 movie, which was pretty weak, too. More than half of the White Stars were wiped out during the war, so they were in the process of using many non-Minbari designed ships, which they note in the movie. Once of the characters even mocks the design of their ship in reference to it not being a White Star. I don't really recall Sheridan backing down very often during the regular B5 series...playing dirty, yes, but never actually fleeing. Of course, the Rangers are another matter...it's pretty clear that they were locked into dogma, by that point, and I suspect if the series had gone forward, that would have been a major plot of the series, namely old-guard Minbari rangers and their centuries-established codes of conduct versus the new blood. However, that whole 'never retreat' nonsense did seem to come out of left field, somewhat, and was one of the weakest elements of the movie. And the best expert you get on the Hand's power? Their spokesperson. Considering B5 characters penchant for lying, both to friends and enemies, I tend to think "The Hand" has self-inflated their power and importance. Most likely, they were an 'intermediate' race, older than man and considerably younger than the ancient races. Consider that Crusade originally started out about curing the plague...something that JMS had intended to be resolved in the third year of a five year arc. I expect The Hand was a Mcguffin. Actually, I thought the fire control system was one of the most painful things about the movie. I realize why it worked the way it did (more to do with Ranger philsophy than good design), but it was just terrible to watch. I may have my dates mixed up here, but I thought that this predated the Drakh plague. "Legend of the Rangers" took place 3 years after the conclusion of B5's major arc, around 2263 or so, prior to the Telepath war and about 2 years prior to the plague. In fact, I think JMS stated that he had hoped to resolve the plague story somewhere nestled within "Rangers", had it gone to series. Poor, poor Crusade. :( [/QUOTE]
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