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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Voadam" data-source="post: 178255" data-attributes="member: 2209">Almost all the templates are there from birth. Creatures are celestial, they are not made celestial at some point in their lives. The exception being undead and infected lycanthropes.From a rules perspective you use the base creature for its BAB and other stats. From a game implementation perspective this makes it easier to add the templates. You have to reverse engineer less and it is pretty easy to come up with the stat block of a summoned fiendish squid or what not.You could create an "actually fiendish squid" and determine its stats from scratch as a magical beast instead of the animal ones, but then it is not an easy add on template creature.</blockquote>