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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Blue_Kryptonite" data-source="post: 2019374" data-attributes="member: 10949">I'm in the real Upstate NY, a few hundred miles north of where the X-Men stomp around. With 98 inches average snowfall and blizards that frequently bury entire 4-door sedans to 3-4 inches past the roof, you either own an SUV, or your friends with SUVs come and pull you out through the knee-deep un-shovelable hardpack. I have a 2000 Ford Explorer SL, which gets surprisingly good gas mileage for all the hype. I fill the tank once a week, and we end up all over a 50-mile area during weekend shopping. In the summer, you can't make your way through Rochester without seeing a fully restored classic car, some dating back to the 1920s, every ten or fifteen minutes at random. Its not unusual to see a massive Winnebago blocked and covered every couple few streets either.I don't think I could ever get 6'1" me, 6'2" older son, his fiancee, my wife, my younger son, my cat's crate, my two beagle/basset dogs, and 400 bucks worth of groceries in that for a typical weekend of errands. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> Not to mention molding, paint, tools, lumber, etc for working on the house… Or the 14-year-old’s bicycle, which fits in the back.</blockquote>