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<blockquote data-quote="Orius" data-source="post: 2328722" data-attributes="member: 8863">Actually, it didn't bother me that much.&nbsp; What's interesting though, is that while the Vorlons are lawful, they're bigger liars than the Shadows.&nbsp; Think about it.&nbsp; They don't appear in their true form, but rather they appear how the want the younger races to percieve them.&nbsp; And they lie about the whole purpose of the Shadows and Vorlons too.&nbsp; The two of them are supposed to be guiding the development of the younger races, yet the Vorlons don't even bother to mention that fact.&nbsp; They spin some story about the Shadows being an ancient enemy the keeps trying to conquer the galaxy.&nbsp; What I wonder is exactly what the Shadows were really up to.&nbsp; They're helping Earth and the Centauri out in the series, but they're far from benevolent.&nbsp; I can't believe they simply wouldn't give their aid to the various younger races without some price attached (of course, the Centauri do pay a fairly terrible price for taking the help of the Shadows and then later stabbing them in the back).&nbsp;&nbsp; I have my own thoughts about this.There are other younger races who've sided with the Shadows in the past, in particular the Drakh.&nbsp; However, they don't interact with the rest of the galaxy (except possibly as living components to Shadow ships), until after the Shadows leave.&nbsp; I got the impression that the Drakh were sort of opposites of the Minbari — where the Minbari long ago sided with the Vorlons, the Drakh obviously seem to have sided with the Shadows but with one important exception.&nbsp; The Vorlons let Minbari society develop on its own, where the Drakh seem to have been utterly dominated by the Shadows.&nbsp; Is that what the Shadows' ultimate price for Earth and the Centauri could have been?&nbsp; Some sort of enslavement?&nbsp; And that other race was called the Lumati.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Orius, post: 2328722, member: 8863"] Actually, it didn't bother me that much. What's interesting though, is that while the Vorlons are lawful, they're bigger liars than the Shadows. Think about it. They don't appear in their true form, but rather they appear how the want the younger races to percieve them. And they lie about the whole purpose of the Shadows and Vorlons too. The two of them are supposed to be guiding the development of the younger races, yet the Vorlons don't even bother to mention that fact. They spin some story about the Shadows being an ancient enemy the keeps trying to conquer the galaxy. What I wonder is exactly what the Shadows were [i]really[/i] up to. They're helping Earth and the Centauri out in the series, but they're far from benevolent. I can't believe they simply wouldn't give their aid to the various younger races without some price attached (of course, the Centauri do pay a fairly terrible price for taking the help of the Shadows and then later stabbing them in the back). I have my own thoughts about this. There are other younger races who've sided with the Shadows in the past, in particular the Drakh. However, they don't interact with the rest of the galaxy (except possibly as living components to Shadow ships), until after the Shadows leave. I got the impression that the Drakh were sort of opposites of the Minbari — where the Minbari long ago sided with the Vorlons, the Drakh obviously seem to have sided with the Shadows but with one important exception. The Vorlons let Minbari society develop on its own, where the Drakh seem to have been utterly dominated by the Shadows. Is that what the Shadows' ultimate price for Earth and the Centauri could have been? Some sort of enslavement? And that other race was called the Lumati. [/QUOTE]

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