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<blockquote data-quote="Greg K" data-source="post: 4181964" data-attributes="member: 5038"><p>First thing, I am not a fan of 4e based on what we have been told (which is not to imply that I think 3e is perfect). That said, I would recommend:</p><p></p><p>1) Get familiar with 3.5</p><p>a download and read the <a href="http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=d20/article/srd35" target="_blank">3.5 SRD</a>. Granted, you won't have the character generation rules, the Experience chart for leveling, names like Bigsby, Tenser, and Ottiluke in certain spells, and the art. You might also be missing some other options as well. But you will have enough to get a feel for the system.</p><p></p><p>b) look at some of the WOTC supplements in the store.</p><p></p><p>c) Get familiar with the third party publishers. Look at some third party websites and, if possible, check out previews ( or better actual products in game store) to see what some of the best support was like. Also check out the reviews on this site. Here are a few companies:</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.greenronin.com" target="_blank">Green Ronin</a> founded by Chris Pramas, a former WOTC employee. This is my favorite 3e company. They produce the Advanced Bestiary, The Psychic's Handbook, The Shaman's Handbook, and The Witch's Handbook and many other excellent supplements.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.montecook.com" target="_blank">Malhavoc</a> founded by Monte Cook, one of 3e's creators. Another really good company. Monte's preference for magic is a little too much for my tastes. Still, lots of good stuff and good ideas. Plus, there is the Book of Iron Might which, imo, greatly enhances combat without resorting to per encounter abilities.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.fantasyflightgames.com" target="_blank">fantasy flight games</a> To the best of my knowledge, they no longer produce d20 products except for possibly a setting (which is supposed to be fantastic). Usually, really good reviews on their products. A few early ones may have had some issues (I can't recall). Checkout the review section for more info on individual products</p><p> </p><p><a href="http://www.alderac.com/d20" target="_blank"> alderac</a> The initial products were not so the best (mechanically), but neither were most companies (including WOTC). Still lots of good stuff and even their early products are great for inspiration. Checkout the review section for more info on individual products</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/" target="_blank">mongoose publishing</a> Another company with some early problems (especially editing which plagued them for a while). However, they did revise the Quintessential fighter and much of their stuff has a good reputation. Checkout the review section for more info on individual products</p><p></p><p>Also, go to the store on this site and look at EN Publishing's Elements of Magic: Revised. This is a an alternate magic system that completely does away with the standard D&D magic system. </p><p></p><p>2) Checkout Paizon's Pathfinder as people have recommended. The alpha version 2 is free. </p><p></p><p>3) If it doesn't have to be specifically DND, Check out Green Ronin's <a href="http://www.true20.com" target="_blank">True20</a></p><p></p><p>4) Checkout the 4e previews on WOTC's site, the unnofficial info page on this site, and the starter product</p><p></p><p>5) Make your decision</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Greg K, post: 4181964, member: 5038"] First thing, I am not a fan of 4e based on what we have been told (which is not to imply that I think 3e is perfect). That said, I would recommend: 1) Get familiar with 3.5 a download and read the [url=http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=d20/article/srd35]3.5 SRD[/url]. Granted, you won't have the character generation rules, the Experience chart for leveling, names like Bigsby, Tenser, and Ottiluke in certain spells, and the art. You might also be missing some other options as well. But you will have enough to get a feel for the system. b) look at some of the WOTC supplements in the store. c) Get familiar with the third party publishers. Look at some third party websites and, if possible, check out previews ( or better actual products in game store) to see what some of the best support was like. Also check out the reviews on this site. Here are a few companies: [url=http://www.greenronin.com]Green Ronin[/url] founded by Chris Pramas, a former WOTC employee. This is my favorite 3e company. They produce the Advanced Bestiary, The Psychic's Handbook, The Shaman's Handbook, and The Witch's Handbook and many other excellent supplements. [url=http://www.montecook.com]Malhavoc[/url] founded by Monte Cook, one of 3e's creators. Another really good company. Monte's preference for magic is a little too much for my tastes. Still, lots of good stuff and good ideas. Plus, there is the Book of Iron Might which, imo, greatly enhances combat without resorting to per encounter abilities. [url=http://www.fantasyflightgames.com]fantasy flight games[/url] To the best of my knowledge, they no longer produce d20 products except for possibly a setting (which is supposed to be fantastic). Usually, really good reviews on their products. A few early ones may have had some issues (I can't recall). Checkout the review section for more info on individual products [url=http://www.alderac.com/d20] alderac[/url] The initial products were not so the best (mechanically), but neither were most companies (including WOTC). Still lots of good stuff and even their early products are great for inspiration. Checkout the review section for more info on individual products [url=http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/]mongoose publishing[/url] Another company with some early problems (especially editing which plagued them for a while). However, they did revise the Quintessential fighter and much of their stuff has a good reputation. Checkout the review section for more info on individual products Also, go to the store on this site and look at EN Publishing's Elements of Magic: Revised. This is a an alternate magic system that completely does away with the standard D&D magic system. 2) Checkout Paizon's Pathfinder as people have recommended. The alpha version 2 is free. 3) If it doesn't have to be specifically DND, Check out Green Ronin's [url=http://www.true20.com]True20[/url] 4) Checkout the 4e previews on WOTC's site, the unnofficial info page on this site, and the starter product 5) Make your decision [/QUOTE]
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