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<blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 8490851" data-attributes="member: 6801845"><p>The car did what it needed to do. Got me from A to B. Had a lot of storage capacity for a car it's size. It was cheap to buy and maintain. For the target consumer it was a decent option.</p><p></p><p>Of course no analogy will ever be perfect. But I liked the car back in the day. A lot of things people say about it are misleading or simply untrue. Just like older editions of D&D. </p><p></p><p>But somehow a simple analogy has turned into me attacking older systems. I'm not. I do think current design is more consistent and polished, there were some weird fiddly bits in older editions we just ignored or cheered when they went away (see [USER=4881]@Sabathius42[/USER]'s post). </p><p></p><p>But going back to the car analogy for people that know how to do it properly you can stop more quickly without ABS brakes. When I took a driving course where they disabled the ABS the instructors were quite impressed with how well I did. Better for many or even most people does not mean better for all people. </p><p></p><p>But again. My comment was not on dismissing people's preferences. If you like anchovies on your pizza go for it. I was just saying that to me the title of the thread is misleading: if you want to play an older version of the game because it's a better game for you, go for it. You don't have to justify it because there's nothing wrong with wanting to play an older version.</p><p></p><p>You don't need to make the title of a thread a suggestive question. I think you can achieve the same goals (slow advancement, simple rules, the changing game, war and domain management, and slim monster stat blocks and intelligent swords) without going back to an older edition. I think the OP should just have stated what they wanted to do. When people point out alternatives, don't complain about the alternatives given when what you really want to say is that you want to play version X. <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="🤷♂️" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f937-2642.png" title="Man shrugging :man_shrugging:" data-shortname=":man_shrugging:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Oofta, post: 8490851, member: 6801845"] The car did what it needed to do. Got me from A to B. Had a lot of storage capacity for a car it's size. It was cheap to buy and maintain. For the target consumer it was a decent option. Of course no analogy will ever be perfect. But I liked the car back in the day. A lot of things people say about it are misleading or simply untrue. Just like older editions of D&D. But somehow a simple analogy has turned into me attacking older systems. I'm not. I do think current design is more consistent and polished, there were some weird fiddly bits in older editions we just ignored or cheered when they went away (see [USER=4881]@Sabathius42[/USER]'s post). But going back to the car analogy for people that know how to do it properly you can stop more quickly without ABS brakes. When I took a driving course where they disabled the ABS the instructors were quite impressed with how well I did. Better for many or even most people does not mean better for all people. But again. My comment was not on dismissing people's preferences. If you like anchovies on your pizza go for it. I was just saying that to me the title of the thread is misleading: if you want to play an older version of the game because it's a better game for you, go for it. You don't have to justify it because there's nothing wrong with wanting to play an older version. You don't need to make the title of a thread a suggestive question. I think you can achieve the same goals (slow advancement, simple rules, the changing game, war and domain management, and slim monster stat blocks and intelligent swords) without going back to an older edition. I think the OP should just have stated what they wanted to do. When people point out alternatives, don't complain about the alternatives given when what you really want to say is that you want to play version X. 🤷♂️ [/QUOTE]
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