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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Garthanos" data-source="post: 5095504" data-attributes="member: 82504">yes its about equivalent of the toughness feat and serves the same  purpose...not everybody I play with takes toughness...( I sometimes skin toughness as being very lucky... since hit points being  heroic luck  as much as anything.) Healing surges go down if you dump stat the con... so your hitpoints may be up.... but.And those particular backgrounds have a rather focused purpose (making them stand out)...  but most of these feat class backgrounds are full on as useful as a feat but cast a wider spread... An example that is definitely very useful doing something nothing else does.. is  one that allows you to take more than one multiclass feat.(and gives an extra language to boot). Most are just more diverse in there fire pattern, for instance providing an extra language AND another skill on your list AND a +2 on that skill ... all three.  Or adding two skills to your list with +1 each.In fact some others feel a much better choice if you already have a reason to have a high con or dont want to sacrefice your healing surges. Does con have too few uses? ... maybe it has gone from uber stat to meh.</blockquote>