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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TheAuldGrump" data-source="post: 2119170" data-attributes="member: 6957">Thank you. I had noticed the recurring +0.2 number, but wanted to know if there was a formula. Since there isn't, no problem! For some reason I didn't think of the GM slots for putting the number, my bad there.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused    :confused:"  data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /> I am glad that the armor limitation has been noticed, that was by far the worse of the problems. I was wondering if it was some leftover from the Grim Tales rules or something. Bugs happen, again, thank you for the response.In any event as the two critters end up being in the 20 plus a lot CR range, they aren't going to see play for a while yet.  :\  (I statted out two of the MacFarland dragons.) Is it just me, or do dragons end up having a much higher CR in the Creature Creation system than in the core rules? Not a complaint, but quite a surprise when I looked at the numbers.The Water Clan dragon in particular was just a blue dragon with Swim instead of Fly, and an alternate way of using its breath weapon. (Given that the dragon does not have a choice of which to use, that being dictated be terrain, I did not change the CR much for that at all, at all.) But the number was much higher than the standard blue, even before he was finished. I was not as surprised at the CR for the Fire Clan dragon, since he is a much different beasty than either the red or white dragons, being the kind of dragon that would find Iceland homey... fire and ice. And was deliberately crippled when young.The Auld Grump</blockquote>

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