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<blockquote data-quote="D+1" data-source="post: 1934335" data-attributes="member: 13654">But that's rather the point isn't it?&nbsp; Are all paladins by definition such shining paragons of virtue that they can't actually have character flaws?&nbsp; How can anyone ever play a paladin with an individual personality without those flaws?&nbsp; How can ANY paladin possibly even fall if he can't screw up occasionally because he's &quot;human&quot; and makes mistakes.&nbsp; Mistakes of the degree that would cause a paladin to lose his powers or actually fall can't actually be made if a paladin by definition is a shining paragon of virtue who DOESN'T make such mistakes.It should be possible for a paladin, despite repeated errors in his ways and frequent Atonements, to never be considered as less a paladin than any other.&nbsp; It should be possible for a paladin to go through an entire campaign without once having the DM set an alignment trap for him.&nbsp; It should be possible for a paladin to have any character flaw that any other LG character can have - and that includes lying (within reason) and petty theft (which is what we're talking about, not grand larceny).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="D+1, post: 1934335, member: 13654"] But that's rather the point isn't it? Are all paladins by definition such shining paragons of virtue that they can't actually have character flaws? How can anyone ever play a paladin with an individual personality without those flaws? How can ANY paladin possibly even fall if he can't screw up occasionally because he's "human" and makes mistakes. Mistakes of the degree that would cause a paladin to lose his powers or actually fall can't actually be made if a paladin by definition is a shining paragon of virtue who DOESN'T make such mistakes. It should be possible for a paladin, despite repeated errors in his ways and frequent Atonements, to never be considered as less a paladin than any other. It should be possible for a paladin to go through an entire campaign without once having the DM set an alignment trap for him. It should be possible for a paladin to have any character flaw that any other LG character can have - and that includes lying (within reason) and [i]petty[/i] theft (which is what we're talking about, not grand larceny). [/QUOTE]

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