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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Capellan" data-source="post: 561296" data-attributes="member: 6294">AEG had a long article in one of their L5R rulebooks about the whole roleplaying vs charisma issue.  As I recall, their argument boiled down to:- if you let roleplaying automatically determine all encounters, then any social skill in the game is invalidated- if you let roleplaying automatically determine all encounters, then the less confident and outgoing players are penalised .. which tends to make them less confident and outgoing.- there are times when roleplaying a scene is simply wasting everyone's time, especially if only one player is involved.  A lot of things (such as haggling over trade deals, etc) should be brushed over quickly with a die roll, and you should move on.It's a good article.  If you know someone with the books, go take a look at it.For myself, my approach to charisma-based skills is this:- I set a base DC (or, if it is an opposed check, determine the other NPC's total score)- if the player just says "I try to bluff him that his target has left town" (or whatever it may be) then they have to beat the base score- if the player chooses to roleplay the actual scene (and I choose to let them - I'm not spending 20 minutes playing out a scene of them buying provisions) then I'll assign a modifier to the DC (or the NPC's total) based on how good they were.  This can be up to 5 (plus or minus - sometimes people make a mess of their roleplaying attempts)This lets Charisma retain its value as an attribute, since I only take RPing into account in certain cases, and then only to influence the difficulty of the skill check.  But it also allows people the option to get into character and RP if they want to, and are comfortable doing so.It works for us, particularly as we have a wide variety of experience levels in our group (from those who have played for 15 years to those who have played less than half a dozen times)</blockquote>

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