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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Gargoyle" data-source="post: 29267" data-attributes="member: 529">You bring up an important point.I agree that when you say "Dragons are arrogant" it's a generalization and does not apply to all dragons equally.  Some are certainly more arrogant than others.  I would think that the more experienced the dragon, the less often it lets its arrogance get the best of them.   I would guess that there are very very few dragons that have problems with their self-image though.This assumes that the dragon has encountered adventurers before, and has seen lots of battles and tricks.  I would guess that it depends largely on how close the dragon is to civilization, and how long the trail of bones is to its lair.  A dragon in the remote wilderness might be more adept at fighting other dragons or various monsters and may never have seen an adventurer, even in its long life span.Hard to do that in less than a round.  He's going to have to make some assumptions based on appearances and past experience with such types.I have to agree, if he finds the party mysterious, paranoia is likely to cause him to unload on them.   It could be though that he's eaten hundreds of peasants trying to steal from his lair, and that he misjudges an experienced party for a bunch of commoners.  If he's battled adventurers before though, he'd be likely to flex his muscles.I agree.   I think this is something that the DM should take into consideration when creating the dragon.  It's not just a bunch of feat and spell choices.  The dragon's past experience and history will often determine his reactions.  Will it be arrogant, paranoid, talkative, furious, curious, driven by hunger, playful (like a cat with a mouse)?  The DM wil know if he develops its personality and tries to build a little backstory.  One important point:  If the dragon isn't arrogant and is very experienced at dealing with adventurers, it should have a higher CR than one that is very arrogant and knows little about the tactics of fighting a party of humanoids.  I suppose the baseline CR would be a dragon that is somewhat arrogant, but also has encountered at least one party of adventurers before and knows how dangerous they can be.  In my limited experience, dragon CRs seem to  be appropriate, but I think the dragon's attitude and experience probably play a big part in how challenging they can be.</blockquote>

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