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"Bait Monsters" and the "Trained Mindset"
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<blockquote data-quote="bowbe" data-source="post: 3816782" data-attributes="member: 6328"><p>I disagree whole-heartedly with this mindset (without any insult intended). I mention it because I happen to see it a lot in all these various 4e threads. </p><p></p><p>I think that MOST people feel very strongly about their current set of Player Characters and fully intend to at least ATTEMPT to port their favorite PC that they have been playing for anywhere from 8 to 28 years to 4e. I know one of the things I did when I converted... yes CONVERTED to 3e was to convert a couple of my aged yellow page character sheets to 3x ed. </p><p></p><p>If players can't do that right out of the "box" so to speak there is a problem. Not a small problem either, nor a problem that people will anxiously wait 1-3 years to have rectified. </p><p></p><p>I know that players in my 3.5 group would patently refuse to play 4e if they couldnt convert their beloved 23rd level characters to 4e immediately. I don't doubt that there is a large segment of the gaming population that feels exactly the same way. </p><p></p><p>To steal a line from 3.5 folks who bash on folks who play older editions with the "Give me rules not DM Fiat." lets say:</p><p></p><p>"Game Company Fiat" doesn't make for happy players. </p><p></p><p>Equally, if I were a developer or game designer, or publisher of a 3rd party company being wooed to help launch a new edition... with say 90% of a finished manuscript simply waiting for the rules to get in my hands and a list of monsters that will be used in the game...and say I were writing a deadline project that figured heavily on using a monster that ends up on the cutting room floor for this edition of the MM... I would be rightously annoyed. </p><p></p><p>Case</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bowbe, post: 3816782, member: 6328"] I disagree whole-heartedly with this mindset (without any insult intended). I mention it because I happen to see it a lot in all these various 4e threads. I think that MOST people feel very strongly about their current set of Player Characters and fully intend to at least ATTEMPT to port their favorite PC that they have been playing for anywhere from 8 to 28 years to 4e. I know one of the things I did when I converted... yes CONVERTED to 3e was to convert a couple of my aged yellow page character sheets to 3x ed. If players can't do that right out of the "box" so to speak there is a problem. Not a small problem either, nor a problem that people will anxiously wait 1-3 years to have rectified. I know that players in my 3.5 group would patently refuse to play 4e if they couldnt convert their beloved 23rd level characters to 4e immediately. I don't doubt that there is a large segment of the gaming population that feels exactly the same way. To steal a line from 3.5 folks who bash on folks who play older editions with the "Give me rules not DM Fiat." lets say: "Game Company Fiat" doesn't make for happy players. Equally, if I were a developer or game designer, or publisher of a 3rd party company being wooed to help launch a new edition... with say 90% of a finished manuscript simply waiting for the rules to get in my hands and a list of monsters that will be used in the game...and say I were writing a deadline project that figured heavily on using a monster that ends up on the cutting room floor for this edition of the MM... I would be rightously annoyed. Case [/QUOTE]
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