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Message: <blockquote data-quote="bowbe" data-source="post: 3817082" data-attributes="member: 6328">Don't get me wrong. I used Chuul, Chokers AND Athac in Aberrations for Necromancer Games a few years back. I really dig those monsters too, just saying for my gaming $$ I'd probably be able to wait for those. That said tho, for every campaign that uses them regularly there are 100 who are getting ready to convert and run the G series again. We have aranea in Bard's Gate, and I think there is one in the City of Brass. They are kinda cool/creepy as well but again, if i hadn't had access to them I would have used something else pretty easily or come up with a work around.I know not everyone uses Frost Giants. I get that. I "get" that some would simply swap out the word "fire" for "frost" and be happy with that. I know others feel that a critter like a "frost giant" is simply a large scaled "meat bag/fighter" for the PCs of appropriate level to pound on. I definitely want something better and more unique for all giant types. I can think of a dozen ideas off the top of my head that would make the various races of giants more unique and special than they currently are and would gladly offer them if Chris Perkins emailed me and offered to pay me for those ideas. He's prolly not going to do that, so failing that I'll simply say that I certainly want to see the full suite of giants, dragons, iconic demons and devils, orcs, ogres, trolls, genies, mummies, vampires, wraiths, spectres, zombies, ghouls and skeletons in my 4e MMI. In 3.5 for example, I didn't get the frost giant boss stat block in 3.5 MM being a blackguard. Really, I didnt get blackguards. Needing sneak attack, bluff, and all that jazz didn't really fit the mold for me. Thus for the Frost Giant, why not a barbarian as that fits the mythic version and flavor text better. Why not a frenzied berserker? Luckily it isn't much of an issue for me to ignore the blackguard and whip up a barbarian or frenzied berserker. Yet, if in 4e "monsters" are supposed to go back to being "monsters" again, you kinda "need" your monsters to start with. Not having the stat at all to start with and having to wait a year, or get the "upgrade" off DDI as "bonus content" would be lame. That was more to the point of my suggesting the various critters like digesters, arrowhawks and tojanida.I guess what I get at is it's fully ok for people to be po'ed about hearing this kind of stuff and express themselves without getting tore down for having an opinion that isn't the company line. They have a right to question the caretakers of the most popular RPG of all time when they start hearing things that they find well... questionable or downright distasteful, and possibly offensive. Equally its fully fine for people (consumers who buy said books to stay current, or RPGA members who are forced to switch for example) to call these caretakers on such decisions.  Now agreed, calling out these caretakers should be done in as "hater" free way as possible. Throwing mud to be throwing mud is no good at all. Asking why is fine. Being annoyed is fine. I know that in my case I may not always have popular opinions, but I do try to offer helpful suggestion! Thanks Case</blockquote>

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