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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pawsplay" data-source="post: 3817155" data-attributes="member: 15538">You could say the same thing about dwarves and frost giants. Yes, they have better ability scores... including notably improved intelligence and all that goes with that. They tend to come with different equipment. The menu suggestion would, imo, slow down encounter creation that involved giants. Frost giants and hill giants serve different rules. Hill giants are simply heavy hitters and brutes... frost giants are more than that, they have a mythic connection (Norse), and have equipment and abilities similar to big adenturers. They are frequently evil in a deliberate way that hill giants just aren't. Frost giants aren't simply giants with the "frost" template applied. That would be like replacing virtually every extraplanar creature with "fiendish" or "celestial" versions of some regular kind of creature.</blockquote>