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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lord Mhoram" data-source="post: 4805905" data-attributes="member: 4789">Thinking about things, I realized part of the reason I really hate bait and switch, even in the smallest forms.The world acts on me in real life. I don't have a whole lot of control over that. I play RPGs for two reasons escape from real life, and to completely immerse in character.To completely immerse I really have to feel a strong sense of connection to the character. That is why I avoid random chargen games (we houserules picking an array back in the early days of 1st ed D&D). I build my character to be exactly what I want it to be, in the world the GM presents. It gives me some sense of control there.Our group also plays high fantasy and 4 color superheroes. The PCs are movers and shakers, in a story sense. They have control, to some extent on their world. These things help me play in an escapist mode. When the world changes, then I lose that feeling - if the world is changed, I'm not getting the escapsim I want from the game, and if the character is changed then I'm not getting the immersion I want, as I can't identify with the character as much anymore.So bait and switching pretty much destroys the reason I game for.Others may enjoy the surprise and the twist, but I get enough of that in real life, and game to get away from that.I'm also one of those that doesn't really believe in character death - now I do play Hero much more than D&D, and I tend to play superheroes, where death just isn't in genre (unless you come back 5 sessions later). As a GM I haven't permanently killed a character I've GMed in 15 years (and I'm proud of that).For me, it's all a matter of playstyle and taste.A bait and switch as the OP described is like the GM selling you what he said was a box of chocolate cookies but gave you peanut butter cookies - they are still cookies, but if I wanted chocolate, but didn't want peanut butter, I would be annoyed. And probably not each the peanut butter cookies.</blockquote>

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