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<blockquote data-quote="Bumbles" data-source="post: 4806030" data-attributes="member: 83457">I am not aware of Gamma World doing that in the rules, except maybe having PSH having a bonus to the training, circumstances which would not be applicable in this case where the mutation came after.&nbsp; I suppose if it did happen, it might be a problem, but I don't see where it did here.The problem is, for everything you're railing against as the Devil's Advocate, you're not taking the time to reference the balance.&nbsp; Which is kinda bad, since you're also misunderstanding the position being expressed, which makes your advocacy less informative than you might intend.&nbsp; Something that's been coming through on all sides here, from most of the people involved.Including me.&nbsp; I know, I know.The difference is between the creation of the ideas versus following through.&nbsp; You can have an idea, which on the surface seems fun, but turns out bad.&nbsp; And this would include many kinds of surprise.It was to illustrate the balance, which you didn't mention, and which has been causing a lot of the disagreement here.I concur, and I think that's the root of most of the problem.&nbsp; It is hard to cover everything though, I understand that a lot.&nbsp; I'm sure I'm not saying enough either.Oh eventually perhaps, but would you stop on the second?&nbsp; Or might somebody be elsewhere on the scale, or be willing to give it another try, or perhaps they've never had a bad Hamburger!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Bumbles, post: 4806030, member: 83457"] I am not aware of Gamma World doing that in the rules, except maybe having PSH having a bonus to the training, circumstances which would not be applicable in this case where the mutation came after. I suppose if it did happen, it might be a problem, but I don't see where it did here. The problem is, for everything you're railing against as the Devil's Advocate, you're not taking the time to reference the balance. Which is kinda bad, since you're also misunderstanding the position being expressed, which makes your advocacy less informative than you might intend. Something that's been coming through on all sides here, from most of the people involved. Including me. I know, I know. The difference is between the creation of the ideas versus following through. You can have an idea, which on the surface seems fun, but turns out bad. And this would include many kinds of surprise. It was to illustrate the balance, which you didn't mention, and which has been causing a lot of the disagreement here. I concur, and I think that's the root of most of the problem. It is hard to cover everything though, I understand that a lot. I'm sure I'm not saying enough either. Oh eventually perhaps, but would you stop on the second? Or might somebody be elsewhere on the scale, or be willing to give it another try, or perhaps they've never had a bad Hamburger! [/QUOTE]

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