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<blockquote data-quote="Clay_More" data-source="post: 4390333" data-attributes="member: 9813"><p>Hiya Notmousse, and thanks for the reply!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I have to admit, I'm not a fan of Endurance, was thinking of making it Great Fortitude, which would though be a bit easy for orcs since its a bonus racial feat in my campaign. I'm a bit reluctant to use splat-book feats as prerequisites (even more so with books I don't own). I don't see anything wrong with someone using the Glutton as a PrC for other races than orcs, it could easily be made to fit another race with a good background.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah, Class Skills have, to be honest, always been a rather weak point for me, always have trouble figuring out the right ones. I agree that Swim should be added and listen and spot might not be good as skills. About tumble, I have a harder time envisioning that on a PrC that gets a hefty Dex penalty. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree that the Dex penalty is quite hefty, I did considered adding a minimum Dex, for example 3, that you can never go below. I wanted the penalty to be considerable so I could give the Glutton the very potent defensive powers, including the high Constitution, to make it stand out more from creatures without the PrC. One of my players who was considering using it actually made the opposite statement, that the Con bonus was too large compared to the movement / Dex penalty. I wouldn't at all mind additional comments on this topic.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There is actually a damage increase at 10th level, going from 2d6 to 2d8, or did you mean even more damage than that? I basically added the damage to all attacks that include a significant amount of bodily contact. Since the Glutton doesn't gain any significant Strength bonus (except for the small bonus granted at level 10), he wouldn't do more damage when bull rushing otherwise, which would seem a bit odd, considering the damage you could imagine from being bull rushed by someone five times bigger than you.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Thanks, and yeah, I'll edit my post above right after I post this, and make it SU. I think I'll make the x/day equal to the Con modifier of the Glutton, that way it automatically increases as you progress in the PrC without needing further detail.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think mentioning that it basically operates like Hardness might be a good idea (but I would keep the rest of the description, its not overly complex and would be a good thing to have there, to make sure the ability is correctly interpreted).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah! Groce and gritty, just so people don't confuse this PrC with some "pretty" obese thing, like a sumo wrestler <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, you're the second person to suggest that, so I think I'll change that as well. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Exactly, I want this guy to end up being inhumanly big, big in a way that you wouldn't imagine a "real" human being without being severely hampered by it.</p><p></p><p>Anyways, going to alter the original post a little bit to take the advice into account. And stay tuned, I'll have a picture of the Glutton posted relatively soon, got a rather competent painter and friend of mine working on it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Clay_More, post: 4390333, member: 9813"] Hiya Notmousse, and thanks for the reply! I have to admit, I'm not a fan of Endurance, was thinking of making it Great Fortitude, which would though be a bit easy for orcs since its a bonus racial feat in my campaign. I'm a bit reluctant to use splat-book feats as prerequisites (even more so with books I don't own). I don't see anything wrong with someone using the Glutton as a PrC for other races than orcs, it could easily be made to fit another race with a good background. Yeah, Class Skills have, to be honest, always been a rather weak point for me, always have trouble figuring out the right ones. I agree that Swim should be added and listen and spot might not be good as skills. About tumble, I have a harder time envisioning that on a PrC that gets a hefty Dex penalty. I agree that the Dex penalty is quite hefty, I did considered adding a minimum Dex, for example 3, that you can never go below. I wanted the penalty to be considerable so I could give the Glutton the very potent defensive powers, including the high Constitution, to make it stand out more from creatures without the PrC. One of my players who was considering using it actually made the opposite statement, that the Con bonus was too large compared to the movement / Dex penalty. I wouldn't at all mind additional comments on this topic. There is actually a damage increase at 10th level, going from 2d6 to 2d8, or did you mean even more damage than that? I basically added the damage to all attacks that include a significant amount of bodily contact. Since the Glutton doesn't gain any significant Strength bonus (except for the small bonus granted at level 10), he wouldn't do more damage when bull rushing otherwise, which would seem a bit odd, considering the damage you could imagine from being bull rushed by someone five times bigger than you. Thanks, and yeah, I'll edit my post above right after I post this, and make it SU. I think I'll make the x/day equal to the Con modifier of the Glutton, that way it automatically increases as you progress in the PrC without needing further detail. I think mentioning that it basically operates like Hardness might be a good idea (but I would keep the rest of the description, its not overly complex and would be a good thing to have there, to make sure the ability is correctly interpreted). Yeah! Groce and gritty, just so people don't confuse this PrC with some "pretty" obese thing, like a sumo wrestler :p Well, you're the second person to suggest that, so I think I'll change that as well. Exactly, I want this guy to end up being inhumanly big, big in a way that you wouldn't imagine a "real" human being without being severely hampered by it. Anyways, going to alter the original post a little bit to take the advice into account. And stay tuned, I'll have a picture of the Glutton posted relatively soon, got a rather competent painter and friend of mine working on it. [/QUOTE]
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