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<blockquote data-quote="Crazy Jerome" data-source="post: 5847043" data-attributes="member: 54877">I would be quite fine with a few &quot;generic&quot; but useful and flavorful options on race and theme to cover such overlap.&nbsp; Technically, all such things should belong in the class, but that puts us pack to either making races/themes not matter much or making each race/theme wildly different.&nbsp; &nbsp;So in the interest of gameplay and ease of building characters, nothing wrong with putting &quot;improved initiative&quot; as a racial choice--for pretty much everyone.&nbsp; In fact, if you had a few such things tied to race (and theme), then you can also easily distinguish certain extreme by what gets left out as an option.&nbsp; A &quot;sloth&quot; race can't take improved initiative. &nbsp;In a more or less equal division of responsibility (or even something like 50/25/25), there are bound to be a host of elements that could plausibly go in either of two different spots.&nbsp; Instead of shoving all of those one way or the other, I'd divide them up.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Crazy Jerome, post: 5847043, member: 54877"] I would be quite fine with a few "generic" but useful and flavorful options on race and theme to cover such overlap. Technically, all such things should belong in the class, but that puts us pack to either making races/themes not matter much or making each race/theme wildly different. So in the interest of gameplay and ease of building characters, nothing wrong with putting "improved initiative" as a racial choice--for pretty much everyone. In fact, if you had a few such things tied to race (and theme), then you can also easily distinguish certain extreme by what gets left out as an option. A "sloth" race can't take improved initiative. In a more or less equal division of responsibility (or even something like 50/25/25), there are bound to be a host of elements that could plausibly go in either of two different spots. Instead of shoving all of those one way or the other, I'd divide them up. [/QUOTE]

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