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<blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 5832914" data-attributes="member: 957"><p>I didn't say they are not out there. I'm talking about being the very best of the best.</p><p></p><p>I didn't say that. I said that a really good system is going to need to realize that sometimes you have to balance apples and oranges. And only a really good DM there managing the situation can do the best possible case-by-case job of that. Every DM starts out mediocre or worse. Lack of experience dealing with these issues would keep them there.</p><p></p><p>But I certainly don't concede this is about what they have said about 5E so far. This is about a specific interpretation of what has been said. If the three pillars try to be a way to dodge ever dealing with apples and oranges, then three years from now WotC will be scratching their head again.</p><p></p><p>I, for now, will presume they won't go that route.</p><p></p><p>I presume you are claiming I have said this. Please correct me if I'm wrong.</p><p></p><p>But I never said that. I've said that a great DM is a great DM and can produce great results. There are several 4E DMs I've specifically called out saying that I'm fully certain their 4E games are awesome. But a great DM in a mediocre system system isn't going to be as good as a great DM in a great system. (I also make no claim whatsoever that 4E isn't the peak of "great" for some specific groups. But clearly market share is a key consideration over niche support)</p><p></p><p>And I'm pretty sure the idea the the system makes the DM is the point I was rejecting. The DM makes the DM.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Of Course!!! And Monte has many years of experience with tons of different systems. We can consider it a finding-of-fact that Monte is a great DM. As a great DM he can run a great game in 4E or most any other system.</p><p></p><p>It isn't the Monte Cooks I've referenced. It is the 11 year old future Monte Cook I'm thinking of. (Or the 47 year old guy who just discovered RPGs yesterday)</p><p>If the 11 year old never plays a game that expects him to deal with apples and oranges on his own then he will never reach his full potential as a future Monte Cook.</p><p></p><p>Right, because I've called for "systems with imbalances". Welcome to this week's episode of Hussar puts words in Bryon's mouth.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BryonD, post: 5832914, member: 957"] I didn't say they are not out there. I'm talking about being the very best of the best. I didn't say that. I said that a really good system is going to need to realize that sometimes you have to balance apples and oranges. And only a really good DM there managing the situation can do the best possible case-by-case job of that. Every DM starts out mediocre or worse. Lack of experience dealing with these issues would keep them there. But I certainly don't concede this is about what they have said about 5E so far. This is about a specific interpretation of what has been said. If the three pillars try to be a way to dodge ever dealing with apples and oranges, then three years from now WotC will be scratching their head again. I, for now, will presume they won't go that route. I presume you are claiming I have said this. Please correct me if I'm wrong. But I never said that. I've said that a great DM is a great DM and can produce great results. There are several 4E DMs I've specifically called out saying that I'm fully certain their 4E games are awesome. But a great DM in a mediocre system system isn't going to be as good as a great DM in a great system. (I also make no claim whatsoever that 4E isn't the peak of "great" for some specific groups. But clearly market share is a key consideration over niche support) And I'm pretty sure the idea the the system makes the DM is the point I was rejecting. The DM makes the DM. Of Course!!! And Monte has many years of experience with tons of different systems. We can consider it a finding-of-fact that Monte is a great DM. As a great DM he can run a great game in 4E or most any other system. It isn't the Monte Cooks I've referenced. It is the 11 year old future Monte Cook I'm thinking of. (Or the 47 year old guy who just discovered RPGs yesterday) If the 11 year old never plays a game that expects him to deal with apples and oranges on his own then he will never reach his full potential as a future Monte Cook. Right, because I've called for "systems with imbalances". Welcome to this week's episode of Hussar puts words in Bryon's mouth. [/QUOTE]
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