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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 7029710" data-attributes="member: 29398">The thing with the Cleric is - and I'm not sure all that many people ever really got this - that their niche along with healing is information gathering through their various divination spells.  The role of Cleric is mostly that of support...which can be approached in one of several ways:Boredom: "oh, sigh, all I get to do is support these guys while they have all the splashy fun" (this one became an unfortunate stereotype)Zealot: "if you want a cure you'll have to swear allegiance to my deity" (player already has dice in hand ready to roll up her next character)Showman: "I'm going to be the most memorable and entertaining - and useful - Cleric you've ever seen!" (my preferred modus operandi)True, but relatively easily fixed by tweaking the thieving-skills tables to increase success chances at low levels and slowing down the increments so the high-level chances stayed about what they were.  But yes, the Thief has always been kind of an oddball (and for the sake of sanity let's ignore Bards and Monks, shall we?) <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> Re: stage time short-termDon't have much confidence in your rogues, do you? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />  But if what's going on is entertaining enough (and the party can see it e.g. being in the room while the 'face' does the talking) then in theory the entertainment value will beat that promised by the Nintendo...right?I tend to look at the long term as well as the short; and I try to make it clear to anyone looking to play one of the on-again-off-again classes (Druid and Illusionist are two such) that there'll be times when they'll be most likely in the background and other times when they'll be front-and-centre.My 3e wizard had it; the most memorable time (and one of only a very few times) she used it was when she'd run afoul of a curse that turned her into a twisted wreck of a Part-Elf - she cast Polymorph on herself to turn herself back into herself!Lan-"poly self on self to self - you just should never have to do this!"-efan</blockquote>

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