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Balance on this feat: Reflexive initiative
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<blockquote data-quote="the Jester" data-source="post: 1929977" data-attributes="member: 1210"><p>The biggest problem I see with this feat is that it could easily turn into a bookkeeping nightmare. Also, it takes away any drawback to readying an action to disrupt someone since you'll still go ahead of them next round. </p><p></p><p>Emm, actually, the more I mull it over the more problematic I think it could become because of this. Picture a combat between a rogue and a wizard. Assuming neither one starts out flat-footed (by the time they engage each other) and assuming the rogue has the initiative (very likely imo), if the rogue has this feat he's almost certain to win the fight.</p><p></p><p>Rd. 1:</p><p>Rogue gets initiative of 18, readies to attack the wizard when he casts a spell.</p><p>Wizard gets initiative of 12, tries to cast a spell. BUT! The rogue's ready attack disrupts him. Ow, darn it!</p><p></p><p>Rd. 2:</p><p>Rogue's initiative is now 14. He readies again.</p><p>On 12, the wizard goes, and if the combat is in quarters closed enough that he doesn't have anywhere to go, he gets nailed again and again. </p><p></p><p>Granted the situation is different depending on the terrain; but a clever rogue could use his good initiative to get out of line of sight/effect after sneak attacking but before the enemy can react, at least in battles against a single enemy.</p><p></p><p>Also, think of how much of a pain in the butt it would be to track the initiatives of a room with six guards with this feat- and frankly, this one looks like a great choice to the right characters (no brainer for a rogue). </p><p></p><p>Another abuse- what about a wizard who readies to magic missile an opposing spellcaster when she starts to cast a spell? Round after round? </p><p></p><p>One of the balancing factors of the ready action is the fact that you ultimately lose an action out of it. I think this feat sometimes lets you gain one. </p><p></p><p>That said- I think this might be an okay feat at the top of a large chain. Maybe even epic.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="the Jester, post: 1929977, member: 1210"] The biggest problem I see with this feat is that it could easily turn into a bookkeeping nightmare. Also, it takes away any drawback to readying an action to disrupt someone since you'll still go ahead of them next round. Emm, actually, the more I mull it over the more problematic I think it could become because of this. Picture a combat between a rogue and a wizard. Assuming neither one starts out flat-footed (by the time they engage each other) and assuming the rogue has the initiative (very likely imo), if the rogue has this feat he's almost certain to win the fight. Rd. 1: Rogue gets initiative of 18, readies to attack the wizard when he casts a spell. Wizard gets initiative of 12, tries to cast a spell. BUT! The rogue's ready attack disrupts him. Ow, darn it! Rd. 2: Rogue's initiative is now 14. He readies again. On 12, the wizard goes, and if the combat is in quarters closed enough that he doesn't have anywhere to go, he gets nailed again and again. Granted the situation is different depending on the terrain; but a clever rogue could use his good initiative to get out of line of sight/effect after sneak attacking but before the enemy can react, at least in battles against a single enemy. Also, think of how much of a pain in the butt it would be to track the initiatives of a room with six guards with this feat- and frankly, this one looks like a great choice to the right characters (no brainer for a rogue). Another abuse- what about a wizard who readies to magic missile an opposing spellcaster when she starts to cast a spell? Round after round? One of the balancing factors of the ready action is the fact that you ultimately lose an action out of it. I think this feat sometimes lets you gain one. That said- I think this might be an okay feat at the top of a large chain. Maybe even epic. [/QUOTE]
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