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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 1297700" data-attributes="member: 957">I think they are ok.The Swashbuckler does hit against a small peeve of mine.  Assuming multiclass XP penalties are not a problem, any fighter who would take the Weapon Finesse feat anyway is almost certainly better taking two levels of Swashbuckler.  You get a bonus feat and more skill points and grace for two levels of SwB, In place of just a bonus feat for two levels of fighter.  I prefer that any 1/1 BAB class gain no bonus combat feats until level 3 for this reason.I also agree that the Samurai is a fine class with a very poorly considered name.  Same goes for the Ronin PClass.  Sure, it may be fine as A ronin.  But it is just silly to say that this the THE ronin.</blockquote>