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Balance test: does +2 Int make a race at least +1 LA?
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<blockquote data-quote="Creamsteak" data-source="post: 1503746" data-attributes="member: 552"><p>The way you set up this question, it's more of a troll than I think you'd like it to be. Your asking a more serious question than your example would lead me to believe.</p><p></p><p>In the context of the core rules, none of the examples given include a core player race with a +0 LA and a bonus to a mental stat. Personally, I lean towards the concept that these are just core examples, and are the basics for the game. In the most simple DnD game, I can understand why a DM shouldn't have to deal with races with odd adjustments such as +4 to one stat (and significant penalties to others) or dealing with a +2 to a spellcasting statistic, unles that DM wants to or feels able to.</p><p></p><p>In the long run though, a +2 to a spellcasting stat is comparible if not equal to a bonus to a physical stat. I think that the opinion that a +2 to a mental stat automatically should require a level adjustment is a bit bogus. A +2 bonus, at most, nets you one extra 1st level spell (if you have a natural 18 to start). At 11th level, when you get your first 6th level spell slot, if you put your two bonus attribute points into your spellcasting attribute, you net a bonus 1st level spell, and a bonus 6th level spell. That's if you don't include spellcasting stat bonus items. Functionally, your getting a +1 to the DC of all your spells, and even that isn't really worth a +1 LA nearly.</p><p></p><p>Breaking down the numbers a little bit more specifically, a +2 racial bonus to a spellcasting attribute is not going to net a character much in the way of bonus spells, and a +1 DC isn't much when compared to some races +1 or +2 racial bonuses to saving throws versus spells. Functionally, a +2 racial bonus to a spellcasting attribute is netting you a bigger bonus to your favored skills, most likely, and possibly a tiny edge as a spellcaster, but it is not nearly enough to denote an entire level lost.</p><p></p><p>My opinion agrees with you, that the people that think a +2 to a spellcasting stat is always a level adjustment are not concerned with the actual effectiveness of the stat, but rather with sticking strictly to the core guidelines as law.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Creamsteak, post: 1503746, member: 552"] The way you set up this question, it's more of a troll than I think you'd like it to be. Your asking a more serious question than your example would lead me to believe. In the context of the core rules, none of the examples given include a core player race with a +0 LA and a bonus to a mental stat. Personally, I lean towards the concept that these are just core examples, and are the basics for the game. In the most simple DnD game, I can understand why a DM shouldn't have to deal with races with odd adjustments such as +4 to one stat (and significant penalties to others) or dealing with a +2 to a spellcasting statistic, unles that DM wants to or feels able to. In the long run though, a +2 to a spellcasting stat is comparible if not equal to a bonus to a physical stat. I think that the opinion that a +2 to a mental stat automatically should require a level adjustment is a bit bogus. A +2 bonus, at most, nets you one extra 1st level spell (if you have a natural 18 to start). At 11th level, when you get your first 6th level spell slot, if you put your two bonus attribute points into your spellcasting attribute, you net a bonus 1st level spell, and a bonus 6th level spell. That's if you don't include spellcasting stat bonus items. Functionally, your getting a +1 to the DC of all your spells, and even that isn't really worth a +1 LA nearly. Breaking down the numbers a little bit more specifically, a +2 racial bonus to a spellcasting attribute is not going to net a character much in the way of bonus spells, and a +1 DC isn't much when compared to some races +1 or +2 racial bonuses to saving throws versus spells. Functionally, a +2 racial bonus to a spellcasting attribute is netting you a bigger bonus to your favored skills, most likely, and possibly a tiny edge as a spellcaster, but it is not nearly enough to denote an entire level lost. My opinion agrees with you, that the people that think a +2 to a spellcasting stat is always a level adjustment are not concerned with the actual effectiveness of the stat, but rather with sticking strictly to the core guidelines as law. [/QUOTE]
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