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Balance test: does +2 Int make a race at least +1 LA?
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<blockquote data-quote="Scion" data-source="post: 1504444" data-attributes="member: 5777"><p>Lets look at the blue vs goblin comparison.</p><p></p><p>Effectively they are the same except that the blue gets +2 int whereas the goblin gets a +2 dex.</p><p></p><p>Now, the +2 dex does more for more types of characters, and generally is just plain better than the +2 int.</p><p></p><p>But casters can get a bit of extra oomph out of the +2 int than normal classes, brining +2 int up to being worth the same as the +2 dex for them.</p><p></p><p>Which means that, generally, the blue is 'weaker' than the goblin, except when the blue is a primary int caster, and then it is about even.</p><p></p><p>Seems more than fine to me at +0, if anything they are both pretty weak for a +0 though, but both still playable.</p><p></p><p>There should probably be a bunch of core classes, maybe at least 13 total, two for each stat at +2, and then the human. All of them +0, and with a lot of interesting, even if minor, abilities like the halflings, gnomes, and dwarfs. This would make many things much easier, and completely negate any sentiments of, 'uh oh, they have a bonus to a stat! quick, hit them with an LA!'. After all, it isnt like every archer out there is one of the races with a +2 dex, but even if they were, that wouldnt mean that it was broken to have that ability for archers, just that people like to play characters who are good at what they do.</p><p></p><p>Even in this case though, if blue was +0, it is still a better option to take human a pretty good portion of the time. Psions need several feats, and a human psion at first level could pick up psionic body, and two other psionic feats, and have +6hp at first level <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> mmmm..</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Scion, post: 1504444, member: 5777"] Lets look at the blue vs goblin comparison. Effectively they are the same except that the blue gets +2 int whereas the goblin gets a +2 dex. Now, the +2 dex does more for more types of characters, and generally is just plain better than the +2 int. But casters can get a bit of extra oomph out of the +2 int than normal classes, brining +2 int up to being worth the same as the +2 dex for them. Which means that, generally, the blue is 'weaker' than the goblin, except when the blue is a primary int caster, and then it is about even. Seems more than fine to me at +0, if anything they are both pretty weak for a +0 though, but both still playable. There should probably be a bunch of core classes, maybe at least 13 total, two for each stat at +2, and then the human. All of them +0, and with a lot of interesting, even if minor, abilities like the halflings, gnomes, and dwarfs. This would make many things much easier, and completely negate any sentiments of, 'uh oh, they have a bonus to a stat! quick, hit them with an LA!'. After all, it isnt like every archer out there is one of the races with a +2 dex, but even if they were, that wouldnt mean that it was broken to have that ability for archers, just that people like to play characters who are good at what they do. Even in this case though, if blue was +0, it is still a better option to take human a pretty good portion of the time. Psions need several feats, and a human psion at first level could pick up psionic body, and two other psionic feats, and have +6hp at first level ;) mmmm.. [/QUOTE]
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