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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ButcherMagnus" data-source="post: 5563855" data-attributes="member: 90097">I apologize for not being specific enough.  Teach me to post without looking up the compendium.  I meant that the fighter would get both the Defender Aura AND the Battle Guardian at-will opportunity attack, which together form the defender mechanic for the Knight.  When I first posted I mistakenly believed those were both one power. So it looks like, if I interpret the rules correctly, that even without Heavy Blade Opportunity, he can use Grappling Strike on any opportunity attack.  Under the 4EO mechanics, he gets to use Grappling Strike only if the marked foe moves away or fires a ranged attack, but if they shift or attack an ally, he only gets a flat out melee basic.  Whereas if the 4EE mechanics were used, he would get to use Grappling Strike if the adjacent foe does ANYTHING other than attack the fighter. My impression from your comments and my continued rumination on the subject leads me to believe that I'm opening up some confusion regarding interaction with marks and feats, and that he would be a LITTLE more sticky.  Basically, with the 4EE mechanisms, it seems he would be almost identical (sticky-wise) to a 4EO brawler with Mobile Challenge.  I don't think that's too outrageous.  And the player I think would like the simplicity. I thank you all for your responses.  I'll check back again for a few days in case anyone has any further comments or insights.</blockquote>

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