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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pming" data-source="post: 7445084" data-attributes="member: 45197">Hiya.I know CapnZapp hasn't been shy...we disagree most of the time on things. I'm cool with that; gives a directly opposing opinion on what "fun" in an RPG is. I would totally belly up to the table with CapnZapp. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> It just seemed that what he was suggesting was what I pictured the 4e design teem doing. Going over the system with a fine tooth comb, running the numbers, and then making changes and testing them out. Eventually then ended up with 4e. I know others love it...I wish I at least liked the goal they had set for it; ultimate balance. But I don't. I found the 'sameness' of it all to be...well, not my thing.As for the "don't know what your talking about" implication... really dude? Really? C'mon...you know why people take their ideas and theories to other's in their field (whatever that field may be)? It's not because they expect those people to take the next decade off testing, researching, building, or otherwise 'doing' what the original person did. No, someone takes their idea/theory/whatever to others in their field because the others have collective experience. Some may have a bit, some a moderate amount, and others a lifetime. I think I fall into the "lifetime" category. I'm 48 years old and started RPG'ing D&D when I was 10. Because of that, I'm pretty sure that I "know what I'm  talking about"...even if I don't take 10 years playing it. Someone with that much experience in a subject is generally considered a "professional" or an "expert". They can look at things and consider likely interactions FAR better than someone who has only been at it for a handful of years. Personally, I think EnWorld is/was one of the absolute BEST places to talk about RPG's and different opinions on them. This thread is a prime example. CapnZapp has a pretty extreme preference to 5e...he's on one side, I'm much closer to the other. Doesn't mean we can't argue/debate about what is better and why. At least in regards to RPG's and not..."certain news articles of late".I know you are also one of those "old guard", aren't you? Like, decades of doing this RPG thing? I know that you can read a game system, do some personal tests of it, roll up a couple characters, etc, and come away having a pretty good idea of how the system will 'feel' and play out. You'll also have a pretty good idea on if you are going to like it or not, what rules you will probably tweak, and stuff like that. I, and others, "trust" in your judgement because we know that you know what you are talking about through experience. Actual experience (playing various games)...not just one of those folks who don't have the opportunity to play much, if at all, and just read/collect books. Our experiences will likely be different, and that's good. Differences help define for ourselves what we actually like/think of something. When a person can't say "I disagree, I think X" without being labeled as some sort of extremist, we are all in for a very bad time.Anyway, I just needed to reply because one of my pet peeves is when one person dismisses another's opinion because "they didn't experience it". We all don't have to experience having a thigh bone broken, but we can all pretty much agree that it's painful and something you don't want. The same thing can be said for a lot of things in life (not everything, mind you, but a lot). I don't have to play 4e for a decade to know that it's not the game for me. Just like you don't have to have a broken leg to imagine how painful it probably is (or something equivalent). Your experience with pain allows you to make a reasonable guess as to how painful it is and how much it would suck (I've never had a "broken" bone in my life, but I have had sprains, pulled ligaments, a whole hand crushed to give hundreds of micro-fractures...and a kidney stone; I can guess that a broken thigh bone is probably worse than all of those except for the kidney stone...NOTHING, and I mean NOTHING is as painful as a kidney stone!).^_^Paul L. Ming</blockquote>

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