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<blockquote data-quote="airwalkrr" data-source="post: 3763066" data-attributes="member: 12460">Hardly. A -7 to hit is not as terrible as you suggest, otherwise iterative attacks would be worthless. Besides that, the Tempest class, plus a few other options, can reduce such penalties.Well yea... is that a problem?How so? You take a -5 penalty to gain +4.5 average damage. That is practically the same as the existing Power Attack rule. And that's assuming the SnB is using a longsword. There is also the bastard sword, or my personal favorite, the Monkey Grip bastard sword for 2d8. A -5 penalty for +9 average damage is not bad at all.Yea, that's kind of the point. Not many people are going to Power Attack with a dagger, unless they really need the extra damage. And you shouldn't gain as much benefit using Power Attack with such a small weapon anyway. Its weight doesn't add significant momentum to the blow.It may still favor THFs, but not as strongly as before.That conclusion doesn't follow at all. Things don't really change much for a fighter with a longsword. It gives extra damage to TWFs and those with light weapons that was unobtainable before; it may not be ideal or overpowered, but it is available. THFs do not have as big of a relative benefit, but it is still a better benefit than using a smaller weapon.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="airwalkrr, post: 3763066, member: 12460"] Hardly. A -7 to hit is not as terrible as you suggest, otherwise iterative attacks would be worthless. Besides that, the Tempest class, plus a few other options, can reduce such penalties. Well yea... is that a problem? How so? You take a -5 penalty to gain +4.5 average damage. That is practically the same as the existing Power Attack rule. And that's assuming the SnB is using a longsword. There is also the bastard sword, or my personal favorite, the Monkey Grip bastard sword for 2d8. A -5 penalty for +9 average damage is not bad at all. Yea, that's kind of the point. Not many people are going to Power Attack with a dagger, unless they really need the extra damage. And you shouldn't gain as much benefit using Power Attack with such a small weapon anyway. Its weight doesn't add significant momentum to the blow. It may still favor THFs, but not as strongly as before. That conclusion doesn't follow at all. Things don't really change much for a fighter with a longsword. It gives extra damage to TWFs and those with light weapons that was unobtainable before; it may not be ideal or overpowered, but it is available. THFs do not have as big of a relative benefit, but it is still a better benefit than using a smaller weapon. [/QUOTE]

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